| IVOD_ID |
150906 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150906 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-26-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-08T11:09:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-08T11:17:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/76e938165848398192ee78b7f6a3c4935942adc12f721acdf8ba9b0039caa7a6172f596e3a4508175ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:09:21 - 11:17:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部、行政院人事行政總處、銓敘部、教育部、國防部就「安心生養！試辦彈性育嬰假及如何提高男性育嬰留停比例」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月8日及10日二天一次會】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（11時9分）主席、各位委員，有請部長。 |
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主席：請許部長。 |
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許部長銘春：鄭委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好。這次0403大地震，花蓮的災情非常慘重，這次勞動部還是依照往例，就針對災後重建工作啟動天災臨工的措施。當然，這個作業要點定很久了，相關的規定都是比較照往例。現在因為這次地震的時間正好是連續假期，所以你們原來的相關規定，24小時內要陳報本部，然後48小時內要洽鄉鎮市公所，因為正好都是連假…… |
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許部長銘春：都已經按照這個規定，我們都沒放假，報告委員，我們就是從4月3號…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我知道你們沒有放假啦！但是有一些鄉鎮公所有放假，這個部分是…… |
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許部長銘春：我們有聯繫啦！我們會持續聯繫。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，我知道，這是事實，因為我都在災區啦！所以今天開始上班，要加速啟動跟鄉鎮市公所的聯繫，因為不是你們的人直接去找這些災民對不對？所以這個部分特別提出來是這個用意。 |
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許部長銘春：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：當然未來是不是需要再檢討還是要去考量。另外，勞工有的在工作期間發生了震災，無論是死亡或者是受傷都有，所以除了這個之外，你們當然都會提到勞保那些…… |
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許部長銘春：職保。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：還有職災保險，你們的措施大概就是這些吧！ |
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許部長銘春：對，因為花蓮是災區嘛！所以這些勞保、就保、職災保險的被保險人，我們就是提供6個月的保險費補助，然後另外他如果因為這些災害受傷，因為這樣不能工作，而且沒有薪資，我們就是從他受傷那一天開始就可以請領傷病給付。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：這個部分要請除了剛才講的就業的部分之外，怎麼樣去主動協助這些勞工…… |
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許部長銘春：會。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：申請相關的這些部分，當然我們所知道的，我們也會去協調、去協助。 |
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許部長銘春：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：那今天的議題，育嬰留職停薪的津貼，相關的規定都有，你們的報告裡面也提到，到去年12月止，較修法前同期，申請育嬰留職停薪的人數，女性增加了11%，男性增加61%，這個數字尤其是男性增加很多，但是我是希望能夠提供什麼數字呢？就是現在的嬰兒出生率的人數跟申請育嬰留職停薪的人數，有嗎？現在有這個數據，好，請說。 |
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許部長銘春：我們女性…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：大聲一點，由你來說。 |
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陳司長美女：鄭委員好，有領勞保的生育給付的人，後續有再領育嬰留職停薪津貼的比例，在去年（112年）是80.41%。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，男性呢？ |
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陳司長美女：因為男性沒有領生育給付，他不能領生育給付，所以沒有辦法…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：還是可以算比例啊！男性增加61%就表示有人數嘛！申請育嬰留職停薪的，然後跟整個出生的人數做比較。 |
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陳司長美女：那個61%是在110年7月1號以前跟以後做比較。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，我知道，我要的不是這個，我要接續，好，為什麼要這個東西？好，我接續談，重點，勞動部最清楚，現在缺工嘛！對不對？缺工很嚴重，對不對？我們的政策怎麼樣去因應臺灣缺工嚴重的事實？除了育嬰留職停薪繼續推動，因為嬰兒還是要照顧，但是缺工，我們鼓勵他上工，但是能夠非常安心的，有托嬰的地方，勞動部就必須跟衛福部去協調托嬰，然後讓他很放心地托嬰。我那個年代，我們夫妻一樣都上班，我在臺灣省政府上班，距離自己的父母親很遠很遠，孩子怎麼辦呢？就是托嬰。所以這個部分，尤其是缺工的年代，短期也沒辦法解決這個問題，所以這個政策還是要做一個調整，怎麼樣更放心去托嬰，然後他還可以正常地工作。 |
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許部長銘春：報告委員，的確啦！如何讓生養的環境更優化，除了我們這些措施鼓勵父母親都一起來育兒以外，其實托嬰、托兒措施也很重要，如果能夠完善的話，也可以讓父母親能夠續留職場。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以有這方面的協助，如果又有很好的托嬰環境的話，他願意…… |
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許部長銘春：對，就是各部會本於權責來共同架構這個友善的育兒環境。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以你們要跟衛福部共同合作。 |
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許部長銘春：包括衛福部和教育部都有。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：包括托嬰的經費要協助好不好？ |
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許部長銘春：對，謝謝，謝謝委員。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員。 |
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接下來請李坤城委員發言。 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請勞動部、行政院人事行政總處、銓敘部、教育部、國防部就「安心生養！試辦彈性育嬰假及
如何提高男性育嬰留停比例」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
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主席、各位委員、有請部長。請許部長。政委好。部長好。這次這個零四、零三大地震,這個花蓮的災情非常的慘重。 |
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那這次這個我們勞動部還是依照過去的往例就針對這個災後重建工作這個啟動這個天災零工的一個措施當然這個最要點也定很久了這個相關的規定都是比較照屬於往例的那個部分 |
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那現在就是說因為這一次這個地震的時間地震的時間正好連假連續假期所以你們原來的一個相關的這些規定24小時內要呈報本部然後這個48小時內要洽向正式公所那因為正好都是連假 |
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都已經都按照這個規定我們都沒放假報告委員我說你們沒有放假啦但是有一些鄉鎮公所有放假這個部分是我們有聯繫啦我們會持續聯繫對我知道這是事實因為我都在災區啦 |
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我都在災期所以還是要去今天開始上班要加速的啟動跟鄉鎮施工所的因為不是你們的人直接去找這些災民的所以這個部分特別提出來是這個用意當然這個未來是不是需要再檢討還是要去考量 |
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那另外就是說這個勞工有的在工作期間發生了這個震災無論是他這個死亡或是受傷都有都有所以除了這些這個之外你們當然都會提到這個跟這個 |
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我們就是提供6個月的保險費的補助 |
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他如果因為這些災害受傷我們就是從他因為這樣不能工作而且沒有薪資那我們就是從他受傷那一天開始就可以請你傷病給付 |
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好,那今天的議題 |
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這個一因留職停薪的津貼這個相關的規定都有那你們的報告裡面也提到這個 |
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到去年12月子叫修法前同期申請應留職停薪的人數女性增加了11%男性增加61%這個數字是尤其是男性增加很多但是我是希望能夠提供什麼數字呢就是說跟現在的嬰兒出生率 |
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的人數啊跟申請役因的人數留職停薪的人數有嗎?現在有這個數據好請說我們 |
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好,男性呢? |
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男性因為男性沒有領生意給戶他不能領生意給戶吧所以沒有辦法所以你的人數就還是可以做算比例啊就是他男性增加61%就表示有人數嘛申請育嬰留子平薪的然後跟我們的那個整個出生的人數做比較 |
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那個61%是在110年7月1號以前跟以後做比較對 我知道 我知道我要的不是這個好 我要接氣好為什麼要這個東西啊好 我接氣談重點這個勞動部最清楚現在切工嘛 對不對切工很嚴重 |
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對不對那我們的政策怎麼樣去因應這個臺灣切工嚴重的事實除了因應留留職停薪繼續推動是不是怎麼樣在這個這個嬰兒還是要照顧啊但是切工啊我們鼓勵他上工但是他的那個很能夠非常 |
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安心的有拖音的地方。勞動部就必須跟衛福部去協調拖音。然後他那個很放心的拖音。我那個年代我們夫妻一樣都上班了。而且是遠離我在台灣省政府上班了。 |
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遠離自己的父母親很遠很遠的孩子怎麼辦呢?就是拖嬰啊就是拖嬰所以這個部分尤其是切工的年代這個短期也沒辦法解決這個問題所以這個政策還是要做一個調整怎麼樣去有更放心可以去拖嬰然後他還可以正常的工作 |
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對﹖ |
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報告委員的確就是說如何有讓這個生養的環境更優化除了說我們這些措施鼓勵父母親都一起來育兒以外那其實托嬰托兒的措施也很重要如果這個能夠完善的話也可以讓這個父母親能夠蓄留職場所以有這方面的協助的話他如果有托嬰很好的環境的話他就願意托嬰所以你們要跟衛福部共同的合作 |
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謝謝鄭天財委員 |