| IVOD_ID |
150859 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150859 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-22-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-03T09:55:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-03T10:09:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:18 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e7bc4f91125901ec5bd97946da31692515c351beec3062dcf8ba9b0039caa7a6bb206ea06e1c8f725ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葛如鈞 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:27 - 10:09:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請教育部次長率體育署列席就「完善國家代表隊選手權利義務及健全我國運動產業環境」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席有請教育部林次長體育署政署長好 我們請署長還有我們請次長 謝謝好 各位好謝謝 次長過去我是一名老師我相信全台灣的師生都是對教育部是非常敬重敬仰的但是這是昨天的頭版教育部公文系統竟然可以登上頭版 |
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教育部的電子公文系統大當機從上週四開始陸續有大學反應 |
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最基本的工作收發公文沒有辦法做加上清明連假要將至非常多人擔心結果當然非常感謝四天之後暫時搶通了所有教職人員像在搶演唱會票一樣 |
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衝進去瘋狂的收發文大家都非常擔心不知道系統又何時再當機這一次的大當機事件光是原因我在這裡要跟次長分享我們竟然聽到三個版本系統廠商說是台電跳電媒體報導說是機房火災教育部昨天回覆是系統升級這已經不只是羅生門了這是什麼山體是不是 |
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一個事件竟然有三種不同可能的原因現在到底是什麼樣的狀況想請教一下次長就您的了解教育部電子公文系統大當機的原因究竟是如何教育部是不是已經盤點出有多少的學校受到影響 |
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就這兩個問題麻煩直接回答謝謝各位委員報告這件事情我們大概了解事發的原因主要是在3月27號科技大樓當時候發生電力中斷復電之後我們系統做一個重啟這個共用的收發平台的部分有異常的狀況那我們也逐一的去做一些盤點組織跟做一些的比對好我先停在這邊我想要請次長您先跟我保證沒有火災 |
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沒有系統升級出現的問題?然後有沒有駭客入侵?是不是職安問題?都沒有嗎?我們做個記錄我們之後一定會追查下去我們真的是覺得不要再一再的有問題2月22號教育部機房發生火災火災的原因那個地方是什麼地方?次長知道嗎? |
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牆壁上的某個東西燒起來啦我給你暗示啦是我們科技大樓機房的電力室變電盤嘛又是電那昨天剛剛次長講說這個公文系統是不是又是電我們今天還發生很不幸的地震的事情 |
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我就在這裡插進來我就脫稿演出請問現在有沒有開始在盤查電力有沒有什麼問題有沒有風險有沒有現在開始在盤查有跟委員報告目前我們整個科技大樓的基法目前是ok的right this moment不是現在ok所有的電力系統但是花蓮區網那邊因為花蓮區網目前中斷所以有局部的學術網路是中斷的在台北區網這邊都是ok的相關報告有沒有發在你們的公開的頻道 |
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葛如鈞 |
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結果呢 教育部竟然變成教育部這個遮蓋東西的部我相信這都不是我們想要看到的我希望要求教育部在一個月內針對電子公文系統大蕩機的事件甚至合併啦就是說這個所謂系統機房電力的問題是不是可以一併的做一個完整的檢討報告 |
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這個部分我們來做一個檢討報告提供給委員做一個參考謝謝這真的是為了民眾問的也是為了全台師生問的此次這個教育部系統當機的事件有非常非常多的資訊都正在發出尤其下週一4月8號 |
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要進行網球及羽球項目這個全大運賽事的抽籤雖然昨天緊急通知信件已經寄出去了但時間真的非常短請問一下次長目前教育部對於主辦全大運的臺灣體育運動的大學有沒有提供任何因為這一次的事件而發生的一些可能的延宕或者是delay或者是發生這個miss有沒有什麼協助的措施如果他們沒有抽到抽籤的通知影響了參賽的權益有沒有研議補償的機制 |
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您最擅長的運動項目是什麼? |
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我相信你可能還有一個擅長的運動你不太了解,其實是踢皮球 |
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您的球友 經濟部王美花部長 數位部唐鳳部長和文化部矢澤部長我們的國家的這個電競產業就是這顆皮球被你們踢來踢去我在這邊要給你們看一下這個手上的小小本的資料最新的2022遊戲電競產業調查報告請問次長知道這是哪個單位做的嗎?非常精美喔 |
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是不是很精美對不對這是文化部底下的文策院所做的眾所皆知依據運動產業條例電競產業的主管機關就是教育部體育署為什麼產業調查是由文化部進行次長還不知道我們進一步詢問了文化部得到的答覆是因為遊戲產業是文創產業之一文政院在辦理文化相關的內容 |
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所以考量等等等等才將電競納入調查範圍白話翻譯就是因為遊戲產業署與文創業與文化部調查遊戲產業的時候順便幫教育部體育署調查了相關發展情形我們真的是不禁懷疑教育部體育署作為電競產業主管機關到底有沒有自行了解過我們的電競產業的現況 |
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市長有沒有看過這本調查報告在這本調查報告裡面反正剛剛看起來是沒看過2021年我國電競產業的整體營收是多少給你一個機會是 跟委員報告一下你可以猜嘛幾億啦幾億12345678910你可以猜一個300億 |
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很好 我也很希望是300億全球可能是300億台灣的電競產業電競產業就是比賽的部分整體已經說5億文化部幫你統計的電競產業2022年的成長率高達147%如果真的是300億我們還用這種消極的態度來處理那還得了但未來一定是300億所以我們才要現在處理所以我想 這個真的是非常非常重要的一個議題 |
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體育署的組織法第二條明定體育署的業務執掌包含運動產業發展之規劃執行督導及獎勵連產業的年營收跟發展概況都沒有掌握基本上就是瞎子摸象要怎麼來規劃產業的發展 |
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市長教育部作為體育署的上級機關負責督導體育署的業務辦理情況結果這些調查報告我們剛剛講什麼147.8%還經濟部幫你們算的你認為這樣的做法是不是太過消極甚至根本不負責任署長就在後面您可以指導他 |
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謝謝委員：確實那個電競的這個運動的部分基本上它涉及到的是好幾個相關部會我可以回應您上一次羅廷偉有委員非常關注他就質詢 |
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結果我們相關的這個官員竟然理直氣壯說電競產業發展屬於經濟部數位部我們特地查了所有的法規也聽您們向經濟部數位部文化部多方多次的確認三個部會都回覆依據運動產業發展條例電競產業屬於運動產業主管機關就是教育部體育署 |
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這個雖然是由教育部經濟部電競產業而且依據法令裡面你們就在裡面啊你們根本就不是單獨經濟部負責啊那你們沒有要推卸責任吧是不是要來負責一下 |
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但是你們也是主管機關之一我在這邊要來接力一下我來問一下署長 |
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電子競技除了是運動產業發展條例所指稱的運動產業以外,它是否也是國民體育法當中所指稱的運動或體育活動?是或不是? |
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回答得非常好,但是依據國民體育法第5條及第44條政府應該保障人民平等使用運動設施及參與體育活動之權利各級政府為推行國民體育應普設公共運動設施並提供適齡適性的器材我這邊要接力羅委員,場館的問題 |
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這個產業已經真的非常大了2022年全球電子競技營收13億美元確實就是300億全球電競人數高達5億2025年會到18億美元全球觀眾會超過6億11個人就有一個人看這個不只他們沒有拿到應有的補助他們還沒有足夠的場館來使用我們可以看到真的是有非常多沒有場館用等到他們贏了以後又來蹭熱度 |
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發言委員：葛如鈞 |
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我們回到這個場館的部分因為我們有這個辦公室同仁在學校很可憐說這個學生真的是因應期盼希望能夠早一點參與這個電子競技 |
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之前我們討論過啦2026年日本亞運把電競項目列入進去了數位時代報導2028年奧運極可能會納入電競的項目而且是電子競技喔身體不用動的喔動腦或動手還沒確定我知道他應該是傳帶四方面的跟亞運的不太一樣所以您是亞奧運的主委是不是主席嗎 |
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我想這個補助很重要不要只是曝光同時也有非常多人真的非常關心我們應該要有場館讓學生可以練習 |
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提醒次長： |
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目前我們電競產業的這應該就是我們要來複習一下電競產業的處境真的是我們都不想要像皮球一樣被踢來踢去我們已經調查過了我們大概問了很多很多次收集了非常多的數據我們目前得到的是每年常態性的補助協會300多萬 |
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距離你們心中想像的300多億真的是太遙遠了我說的是產業的scale幾乎真的是沒有在過去沒有促進電競產業做太多努力不調整選手的補助培訓的條件提高電競設施的可進性迎頭趕上其他國家電競產業的發展 |
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謝謝委員 |