| IVOD_ID |
150858 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150858 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2024032914 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
「啟動國會改革─立法院職權行使法相關法案」公聽會 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-03T09:50:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-03T09:57:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
吳宗憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:50:58 - 09:57:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會公聽會（事由：「啟動國會改革─立法院職權行使法相關法案」公聽會） |
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現在有請吳宗憲委員發言 |
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我今天先肯定一下行政院今天的報告因為今天報告沒有再拿585號來牛頭不對馬嘴了因為相關昨天昨天本人前天吧本人在這邊的時候曾經就行政院拿585號來做這樣的對我的提案做這樣的 |
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吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員 |
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行政機關的官員絕對不應該去主動去帶風向去騙人民所以我昨天一直在講一直在講這個部分就是政府不應該拿錯誤的資訊來誤導人民這個是不應該的這完完全全不應該那長期以來我們的政府是拿很多不同的數據來欺騙人民來美化一些大眾對於施政的感覺那這都不是一個負責任的政府該做的事情 |
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我還是很深信民進黨的創黨精神清廉、勤政、愛鄉土我非常認同這個創黨精神我希望現在能夠繼續這樣堅持下去有關這次國會改革的部分 |
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有關這次國會改革的部分那我想說我來簡單提一下其實我禮拜一的時候也一直講一個東西在座非常多公法學者我們都知道一件事情憲法是國家的根本大法絕對不可能變來變去 |
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我想在座有律師有學者大家都能夠認同這個所以在我這個很直很笨的法律人的腦子裡面憲法其實是不會這樣亂變來變去的否則不叫做根本大法那我們來看一下在2015年的時候蔡英文自己在臉書的主張這是我自己的臉書寫的我寫報告蔡總統我正努力達成您當年國會改革的理想 |
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我現在正努力在達成蔡英文當年國會改革的理想我現在就在做這件事我們看一下蔡英文在2015年她就主張要國會改革她就希望建立起聽證跟調查制度要強化監督的能量那個時候為什麼沒有群起說違憲違憲違憲我們要申請四字我們要幹什麼當時都沒有這樣做所以到今天我覺得我一直在說一個 |
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當年跟今天唯一不一樣的就只有一個因子的差異就是執政與否所以我覺得對於事情不能這樣看我們再來看一下其實這段時間不管是顧立雄委員李俊毅委員其實都非常的清楚要求要有調查權的存在甚至要有相關的處罰那這些人現在也都在位而且都是位居高位像一位在監察院的秘書長一位是 |
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國安局秘書長甚至現在的總統府秘書長就是前立法委員林佳龍他還要求要有刑罰剛剛有幾位學者痛罵說這個刑罰的部分當然我的版本是沒有刑罰我先跟各位報告我的版本是沒有刑罰的剛剛還有學者還痛罵說這怎麼有刑罰當然我們再回過頭去看其實 |
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律師長當年他也是提有一個刑法的這個建議 |
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所以我在想 很多事情我們是可以理性的來討論那再回過頭去看 其實那個剛剛林志傑教授有提到美國的國會當然林志傑教授講得非常的正確那他們是三權分立國家 我們是五權分立國家 本來就是都不能套用但是我倒不覺得說國會這樣做會有一些老民的問題你們去看一下三權分立國家的美國 其他的國會的力道更強悍 |
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吳宗憲 |
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立法院的權力也不能無限擴張所以我們會有一些限制的存在 |
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提供這些被處分的官員的程序保障這個也是我堅持的還有就是涉嫌到有相關法律責任的時候就是交由司法機關或監察機關來處理絕對不是立法委員說了算這個我很堅持絕對不是立法委員說了算那在這邊就跟各位報告到這邊如果有什麼問題我在下午提案的時候我會再詳細說明 謝謝 |