| IVOD_ID |
150763 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150763 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-23-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
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11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-01T11:18:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-01T11:30:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/01d093d00f1a07c0da54f0b75b617ada82ad73e3a9acf4eaf8ba9b0039caa7a6f80bfb6e838a57535ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:18:55 - 11:30:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長王國材就「極端氣候災防預警暨汛期防汛準備辦理情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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陳委員雪生：（11時18分）謝謝召委，是不是請部長，還有觀光署署長，航港局、公路總局。 |
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主席：請部長、周署長、航港局葉局長、公路總局陳文瑞局長。 |
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王部長國材：召委好。 |
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陳委員雪生：部長、各位首長，大家早安。極端氣候對馬祖的影響，像東引跟莒光常常碰到濃霧，這兩個地方是沒有機場的，因為沒有機場，到時候要救援的時候，還不只航港局喔，可能直升機什麼的，這個可能都要配合，部長可以嗎？ |
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王部長國材：機場部分是不是請民航局來說明？ |
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陳委員雪生：民航局？ |
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王部長國材：是要叫機場還是港口？ |
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陳委員雪生：民航局還有港口都要！ |
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王部長國材：所以你的意思是說東引跟莒光要有機場？小機場？ |
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陳委員雪生：我是問你怎麼救援啦，因為有時候浪大。 |
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何局長淑萍：東引現在有直升機飛行場，而且目前有直升機在運作。 |
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陳委員雪生：如果用在極端氣候的話，那筆錢你們也要配合一點嘛！對不對？ |
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何局長淑萍：有關機場設施改善的部分，還是飛行？ |
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陳委員雪生：設施沒有問題，我是說遇上極端氣候，那時候就需要救援直升機，每跑一趟，我們縣政府就要負擔一趟的錢！ |
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何局長淑萍：好。 |
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陳委員雪生：在局長部分，請你考慮一下，好不好？ |
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何局長淑萍：好，這部分我們回去研究一下好了。 |
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陳委員雪生：好，你們研究一下。 |
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何局長淑萍：因為直升機是…… |
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陳委員雪生：航港局的部分，就是請你們看看哪裡的船調度什麼的，怎麼來怎麼去嘛！好不好？你們注意一下。 |
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葉局長協隆：是。 |
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陳委員雪生：兩位局長請回，謝謝。 |
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就觀光署部分，部長，我最近可能會去一趟大陸，還是要拜託他們金馬小三通先放啦！我聽說馬前總統去北京，如果有可能在520以前大陸同胞能夠放過來，我們先釋出善意表示歡迎嘛！我知道你的委屈啊！ |
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王部長國材：沒有、沒有意見。 |
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陳委員雪生：要是團放的話，當然你也要冒很大的風險，我知道。但是現在大陸團不來，我們大家要共同努力嘛！ |
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王部長國材：好。 |
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陳委員雪生：所以，對於馬前總統去，我希望執政黨不要一直攻擊他、罵他，總要跟大陸談事情嘛！在一個中國的原則下沒辦法談問題，那就繞個圈、轉個彎嘛！用中華也可以啊！對不對？我們都是中華炎黃子孫嘛！新加坡也是中華民族的啊！所以繞一個圈去講話，可能會好一點。你若有機會到國安會，幫我做意見表達，好不好？ |
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署長，謝謝您，請您注意一下金門跟馬祖的狀況，好不好？ |
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周署長永暉：謝謝委員。 |
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陳委員雪生：好，謝謝，署長請回。 |
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最近馬祖起濃霧，我們急需有反光標誌，也就是一些可以反光的標誌。但上次我去苗栗看，發現霧非常大時，反光板根本看不清楚。在馬祖，到雲台山的路段還有北竿一些小路段只能用太陽能裝置，局長，可不可以？你請連江縣政府送規劃案過來嘛！ |
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陳局長文瑞：是、是、是，這部分我們有了解，連江縣政府今年已提案，就是要增設這種太陽能導光板…… |
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陳委員雪生：對。 |
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陳局長文瑞：已經提報到部裡面，大概會用道安經費協助。 |
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陳委員雪生：那希望局長也將辦理情形給我回報一下，好不好？ |
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陳局長文瑞：好。 |
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陳委員雪生：不要每一次我問完就算了、問完就算了。 |
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陳局長文瑞：目前在部裡面審查…… |
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陳委員雪生：你們的頭腦很好，我的頭腦沒有你們那麼好，好不好？ |
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陳局長文瑞：好，一定跟委員講。 |
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陳委員雪生：注意一下喔！ |
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王部長國材：這個我也會追蹤一下。 |
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陳委員雪生：好，局長請回。 |
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另外，國發會已經把機場改建案送到行政院去了。 |
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王部長國材：是。 |
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陳委員雪生：那麼請部長還有局長……何局長，謝謝，拜託你要聽到，好不好？拜託你關心行政院秘書處、也就是院長那邊核定的狀況怎麼樣。因為我在總質詢時要求兩個禮拜之內，而院長押一個月，那一個月的時間快到啦！ |
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王部長國材：國發會已經送到行政院，應該會循秘書長、副院長跟院長程序進行。我覺得既然國發會都已經同意了，北竿機場這一案應該很快會核定。 |
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陳委員雪生：好。 |
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對於最近的花東條例，你看！沸沸揚揚的，立法院兩黨大家都在對峙。反觀我們的馬祖大橋可行性評估也做了，綜合規劃也做了、而且快完成了，但綜合規劃一直在打轉。交通部有沒有行文世曦，詢問到底預算要多少錢？你們問一下嘛！起碼去個文。我都沒看到文耶！你副本發給我好不好，局長？ |
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陳局長文瑞：是。 |
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陳委員雪生：你委託他們嘛！不是公路總局委託世曦嗎？ |
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陳局長文瑞：對。 |
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陳委員雪生：你去個函給他們，問他們這個工程技術能不能做。 |
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陳局長文瑞：好。 |
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陳委員雪生：不要老是我去詢價、去問金門哪一家要標，至少國內要有一家有這個意願嘛！對不對？到時候開標才有人來。要是一家都沒有的話，你叫我們怎麼開標啊？是不是？ |
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陳局長文瑞：是。 |
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陳委員雪生：我問了老半天，廠商講300億，還是講300億啊！那我們頂多寬列到350億好了嘛！請世曦趕快重新處理一下，好不好？ |
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陳局長文瑞：好。 |
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陳委員雪生：520以後我要攻馬祖大橋這件事，因為馬祖大橋要做嘛！要是不做的話，叫機場怎麼弄啊？ |
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陳局長文瑞：好，在規劃部分，就程序面，行政院大概還有一些指示啦！我們會持續處理。 |
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陳委員雪生：不是還有一些，還有很多啦！你要把世曦的技術問題跟預算問題弄出來給行政院看嘛！ |
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陳局長文瑞：好。 |
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陳委員雪生：連問都沒問、看都不看，擺在那裡幹什麼？一直在那邊打太極拳，不好吧！你看，我有推什麼花東條例嗎？有用過什麼條例嗎？統統沒有啊！我連離島建設條例都沒動用耶！是不是？那是不是也拜託你們釋出一點善意？部長，好不好？可以吧？ |
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王部長國材：是。 |
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陳委員雪生：好，最後一個問題，主席，對不起，我們都是召委，方便我一下好不好？ |
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主席：時間還沒到。 |
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陳委員雪生：時間還沒到喔？ |
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關於高雄飛馬祖航線，我要請問部長還有局長，航政司有沒有來？立法院還有沒有其他委員關心？如果有的話，我都非常感謝他們喔！林俊憲委員有關心嗎？謝謝。我回頭跟你磕頭，好不好？高雄飛馬祖航線很重要耶！對了，俊憲委員好像要選市長的樣子，俊憲委員，要是你幫我把這件事弄好，我就幫你拉票，好不好？我連黨的立場都不管，幫你拉票，好不好？咦？這裡有麥克風耶！ |
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關於高雄飛馬祖航線，拜託一下民航局在最近的時間處理，包括立榮航空、華信航空、連江縣政府、馬祖防衛部、陸軍總部還有中油，因為如果它不滿載的話，票價是很高昂的喔！可能一張票要三千多塊到四千塊，因為要減重飛行嘛！運量72人的飛機可能只能載50個，因為怕油料不夠。關於中油在我們那邊的設施，產發處處長講過會馬上把它弄好，弄好以後、在地面可以加到油的話，那就可以載72人啦！若載72人，票價就只要兩千多一點嘛！這樣就有了。這是第一件。 |
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第二件事，拜託找這兩家航公司來談，先用包機方式。我們縣政府都敢負責了，好不好？ |
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何局長淑萍：好。報告委員，這部分我們會再開會，邀業者再討論一下整個運能的情形跟後續怎麼處理。 |
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陳委員雪生：我們的王忠銘縣長是一個非常負責、盡職的縣長，我當縣長時，他是我的秘書長，我非常清楚。所以有一些人假借其他理由要罷免他，我聽不下去啦！罷免什麼東西？看到其他縣市在罷免，我們也要玩罷免的遊戲？要罷免那麼忠誠、那麼負責的一位縣長、五星級縣長，我聽到都氣死了，你知道嗎？現在不管如何，他的案子、連江縣政府高雄到馬祖航線的案子，是不是送到民航局了？送來沒有？ |
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何局長淑萍：沒有，就我們這邊，是因為之前委員提起，所以我們會…… |
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陳委員雪生：他們有公文送到你們這裡來了，我有收到正本喔！還是正本喔！ |
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何局長淑萍：我們是因為委員質詢，所以開會。至於縣府的文，我們沒有，不過沒關係啦！這個…… |
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陳委員雪生：那我改天再召集一次會議，好不好？拜託相關單位一起到我這邊、到立法院再開一次會。我希望包機先試飛個幾趟嘛！讓它完成，好不好？因為那邊的阿兵哥有一半是住在中部以南，他們回家的路很遠。還有很多南部觀光客，有的人從小三通那邊繞一圈回來，也有人要先到臺北過夜，才能到馬祖觀光旅遊，我想俊憲委員應該也了解嘛！你也幫我們拉客好不好？至於其邁市長那邊，我也拜託他啦！ |
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林委員俊憲：沒問題。 |
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陳委員雪生：最主要還是航空公司啦！ |
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何局長淑萍：其實主要…… |
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陳委員雪生：航空公司要民航局溝通。 |
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何局長淑萍：主要就是它ATR的運能現在真的很有限，不過這部分我們再開會，再來看看怎麼處理。 |
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陳委員雪生：我知道，抽一、兩架次包機嘛！試試看嘛！我們先不講運能啦！你不要拿運能來擋我。要是你拿運能來擋我，那一次都飛不了。 |
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何局長淑萍：委員，這部分我們再協調，看看業者的…… |
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陳委員雪生：因為你前面跟我講包機問題，現在包機快要OK了，你又講運能。等運能也沒問題了，你又要扯一個其他問題出來。 |
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何局長淑萍：包機還是要看運能嘛！我們會就這個部分協調、儘量協調。 |
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陳委員雪生：我想，何局長是這麼聰明、非常有智慧的局長，王部長也提拔你當民航局局長，一定有原因的，你在副局長任內評價很高，拜託你幫我完成這個任務好不好？ |
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何局長淑萍：報告委員，我們儘量努力。 |
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陳委員雪生：部長，局長要幫我做，你不能反對吧？ |
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王部長國材：支持。第一個就是馬祖那邊加油的部分先處理，包機我們也會促成。 |
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陳委員雪生：我第一件事情拜託你在520以前把這件事完成。第二件事情，520以後若還是你繼續留任，那我就是這兩個心願，好不好？謝謝。 |
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王部長國材：謝謝。 |
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主席：陳召委發言完畢。 |
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現在請林俊憲委員發言。 |
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李昆澤 |
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徐富癸 |
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林國成 |
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林沛祥 |
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蔡其昌 |
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魯明哲 |
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邱若華 |
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何欣純 |
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陳素月 |
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許智傑 |
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林俊憲 |
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陳雪生 |
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游顥 |
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廖先翔 |
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林德福 |
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洪孟楷 |
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陳俊宇 |
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蔡易餘 |
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邱志偉 |
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黃健豪 |
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顏寬恒 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請交通部部長王國材就「極端氣候災防預警暨汛期防汛準備辦理情形」進行專題報告，並備質
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好,謝謝召委,順便請部長請部長還有公安署署長請周署長、韓港局、公路總局、葉局長、還有陳文睿局長部長各位首長大家包含齊端氣候馬祖像東營跟菊光常常碰到濃霧這兩個地方是沒有機場 |
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沒有機場,到時候要救援的時候還不只航空局可能直升機什麼的,這個可能都要配合 |
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部長可以嗎?機場是不是民航局?你說機場還是港口?民航局還有港口都要啊所以你意思說東營跟舉光要有小機場?問題你怎麼救援?有時候浪大 |
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東引現在有直升機飛行場,然後目前有直升機在運作如果極端氣候的話,那個錢你們也要配合一點 |
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有關機場的設施的部分設施沒有問題,我是說極端氣候的時候,那是救援直升機,我們跑一趟,現在我要負擔一趟的錢,那麼在局長的部分請你考慮一下好不好?這部分我們回去研究一下好了,因為直升機是那個…那航港局的部分就是你們看看那裡的船調度什麼的,怎麼來怎麼去嘛好不好?你們注意一下好不好?好兩位局長請回,謝謝 |
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那觀光署的部分部長我最近可能會去一趟大陸我還是拜託他們金馬小三東先放我聽說馬前總統去北京有可能火20以前如果大陸同胞能夠放過來我們先釋出善意表示歡迎我知道你的委屈 |
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你說團放放的話當然你要冒很大的風險我知道啦但是現在大陸團又不來我們大家共同努力嘛所以馬前總統去啊我希望執政黨不要一直去攻擊他罵他你總要跟大陸要談事情嘛 |
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那你在一個中國的原則之下沒辦法談問題你繞個圈轉個彎嘛用中華也可以啊對不對我們都是中華元皇子孫嘛新加坡也是中華民族的啊所以用繞一個圈去講話可能會好一點有機會到國安會幫我這個意見表達好不好 |
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好,那署長謝謝您,您注意一下金門跟馬祖的狀況好不好?謝謝,謝謝委員好,謝謝署長請回最近馬祖農務,我們急需什麼?反光標誌 |
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反光一些標誌,上次我去苗栗看了以後,霧非常大,你那個反光那個板根本都看不清楚,在我們馬祖到雲台山的路段,還有北竿有一些小路段,那個路段可能用太陽能的,局長可不可以? |
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你請連江縣政府那邊弄規劃案過來嘛是是是這這個部分就是說我們有了解就是說這個連江縣政府今年有提案齁那提出就是說要偵測這種太陽能的這種導光導標對好不好那呃提報到部裡面來那這個大概會用道安經貝的協助那希望局長你也辦理情形跟我回報一下好不好好好不要每一次問完就算了問完就算了 |
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你們頭腦很好,我頭腦沒有你們頭腦好好不好?這個我來追蹤一下好,局長請回另外就是機場改建已經送到國發會送到行政院去請部長這邊還有局長何局長謝謝何局長拜託你再盯到好不好那個行政院秘書處 |
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院長那邊合併的狀況怎麼樣?因為我在總諮詢要求兩個禮拜之內,那院長要說一個月,一個月時間快到了。國安會已經送到院,應該會尋秘書長、副院長跟院長的行程。我是覺得國安會已經也都同意了,所以我覺得北竿機場這個應該很快會合併。好,那最近這個 |
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花東的條例你看菲菲妍妍、立法院你看我們兩黨都在那邊對視我們的馬祖大橋可行性評估也做了綜合規劃也做了快完成了綜合規劃一直在那邊打轉一直在打轉交通部你們有沒有問過有沒有行文給世襲問到底預算要多少錢你們問一下嘛 |
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起碼去個文,我都沒看到文,你副本給我好不好?你委託他們嘛,不是公路總局委託世襲嗎?你去個行給他們,你這工程技術你們能不能做?你不要老是我去尋家去問金門哪一家飆的那個至少國內有一家有這個意願嘛,對不對?我們到時候開飆才有人來你一家都沒有的話,那你叫我們怎麼開飆啊?是不是? |
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我去問了老半天他說300億還是講300億啊那頂多我們估算寬列350億好了嘛請世襲趕快去弄一下好不好因為520以後我要攻這個馬祖大橋因為馬祖大橋你要做嘛你不做的話你到那個機場怎麼弄啊 |
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我們規劃的部分齁因為呃程序面的部分因為行政院大概還有一些指示啦所以我想我們會持續還有一些還有很多啦我還會持續再提問你把士氣跟那個技術的問題預算的問題你把它弄出來給行政院看嘛好他連問都沒問連看都不看擺在那裡幹什麼一直在那邊打那個太極拳你會不會打 |
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高雄馬祖的航線 |
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我請問部長,還有請問局長,杭政司有沒有來?我們立法院有沒有哪一位委員,還有其他委員關心?如果有的話我都非常感謝他們,是不是?林俊憲委員有關心,謝謝。我回頭給你磕頭好不好? |
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非馬祖的航線,這很重要,對了軍縣委員要選市長這樣,軍縣委員你幫我這個弄好我就幫你拉票好不好?我連黨的立場我都不管,我幫你拉票好不好?欸這裡有麥克風嗎?那個高雄非馬祖航線,拜託一下民航局啊,你在最近的時間,利隆航空、華信航空、臨江縣政府 |
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馬祖防衛部陸軍總部還有中油因為如果他不滿載的話那個票價是很高昂的可能一張票要三千多塊到四千塊因為他要減重飛行嘛72人的一個飛機可能只能載五十個怕油料不夠但是中油在我們那邊我們那個廠方都出來來講了嘛馬上會把它弄好弄好以後呢在我們地面可以加到油的話那就72人啊 |
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既然票價只要2000多一點這樣就有了這第一件第二件我拜託找這兩家海運公司來談先用包機的方式我們現在我都敢負責了好不好 |
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這個部分我們會再來開會,會邀業者再來討論一下整個運能的情形跟後續怎麼來處理我們王中民縣長是一個非常負責進職的一個縣長我當縣長他是我的秘書長,我非常清楚所以有一些人假借其他理由什麼要罷免他的人,我聽不下去啦是不是在罷免什麼東西?你看到人家縣市在罷免,我們也在玩罷免的遊戲 |
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那麼忠誠那麼負責的一個縣長五星級的縣長我聽了我都氣死了你知道嗎現在不管如何他的案子連江縣政府高雄到馬祖航街的案子是不是送到民航局了?送來沒有? |
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沒有,我們這邊是之前委員有在提起,所以我們這邊會來他有公文送到你這裡來,我有收到正本我們是委員質詢,所以我們來開會那縣府的文我們是沒有拜託我改天再召集一個會議好不好所以這些相關的單位一起到我這邊,到立法院來再開一次會我希望這個包機先試飛個幾趟好不好,讓他完成 |
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因為那邊阿兵哥有一半是住在中部以南他們回家的路很遠還有觀光客很多南部的觀光客有的跑到從小山東那邊繞一圈回來也有的要到台北來過夜才能夠到馬祖來觀光旅遊我想據縣委員你應該也了解你也幫我們拉客好不好那其邁市長那邊我也拜託他有拜託 |
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最主要還是航空公司航空公司要民航區主要就是他ATR的運能現在真的是很有限不過這部分我們再來開會抽一兩架出來包機嘛試試看嘛我們先不去講運能啦你不要拿運能來擋我你拿運能來擋我的話那一次都廢不了委員這部分我們再來協調因為你前面跟我講包機 |
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現在包機快OK了,你又講運能運能也沒問題,你又扯一個其他出來包機還是要運能,我們這個部分來協調我想以我們何局長這麼聰明非常有智慧的局長你看王部長都提拔你當民航局局長,一定有原因的你當副局長任內,對你就評價很高拜託你幫我完成這個任務好不好 |
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我們盡量來努力部長,局長要幫我做,你不能反對吧?就是現在先,第一個馬祖那邊的加油的部分先處理,那包機我們來促成我第一件事情拜託你520以前把這個事情完成第二件事情520以後還是你繼續留任我只有兩個心願好不好?謝謝 |