| IVOD_ID |
150751 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150751 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-20-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-01T10:47:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-01T10:59:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/01d093d00f1a07c03aca791830a9d18bee14ad7ded5d841af8ba9b0039caa7a60754f09c682f03845ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:47:48 - 10:59:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員會黃主任委員天牧、內政部、國家發展委員會就「如何積極推動金融業投注國內公共建設，並達成社宅百萬戶之政策目標」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月1日及3日二天一次會】） |
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主委長在4月份 |
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4月份有一個叫做私募股權的一個公會PE公會私募股權公會這個的理事長是台山投資的總經理他對外說這個是新聞稿的一個公開他說這個公會已經發函給各會員確認 |
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國發會擔任私募股權業主的主管機關好對不起時間暫停一下我再請我們國發會今天有國發會國發會有來請高副主委請繼續我就要請教主委私募股權 |
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的主管機關是變成國發會．他對外說．你有沒有覺得怪怪的?師木股權不是金管會讀到的當然這個師木基金可能當時有一個……師木股權它是不是屬於證券?不見得是證券不見得是證券它不是證交法的有價證券 |
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因為在政交法裡面沒有規定私募股權屬於有價證券,是嗎?我印象中沒有啊沒有,如果沒有的話就不屬於主管機關也不屬於政交法裡面的一個標的,是吧?好,我在這邊全部都有記錄哦私募股權不是主管股權他的英文是什麼? |
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Private Equity FundEquityPrivate Equity FundEquity Fund對,那不屬於金管會我們沒有管過金管所以他的主管機關就可以變成國發會好,等一下來,我們請國發會部主委講一下你們現在已經確認國發會是變成PP Fund的主管機關了嗎? |
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基本上是的基本上不要基本上是不是是所以你們有查核機制嗎國分會是屬於之前是輔導所以以未來這個private Equity Fund它裡面一樣有運作一樣裡面有沒有內線交易一樣裡面會不會要有這個金融檢查你們有這些相關的機制嗎 |
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我們基本上就是我們會協同那個金管會協同金管會因為你沒有經檢權所以啊來金管會黃主委你們不要再鬧笑話了這是最近有一些國際金融的人士老講這個新聞我根本連看都沒看到他們就給我說笑死人了全世界的批放不是由中央銀行就是由那個金融機構主管機關來管只有我們用國發會 |
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這到底是什麼樣的機制你們要不要搞清楚如果今天主委說因為在政交法裡面對於私募股權沒有放在政交法裡面你們就不管可是過去有啊你們可以解釋不是嗎對不對所以你現在要尊重你政交法裡面有沒有把私募股權放進去這一點我是今天因為時間有限我還有其他要問 |
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這個不要去鬧國際笑話如果全世界都是由主管金融主管機關在管我們跑到國發會是什麼意思啊國發會是輔導他有輔導的功能但是輔導跟管理還是兩碼子事我剛剛不講嗎他以後不要做金融檢查 |
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你擔保他沒有這個有違反政交法的事情嗎?你擔保他沒有那個內線交易嗎?你擔保他沒有那個損害那個消費者投資人的事情嗎?以後誰來檢查?再來由今晚會檢查你用什麼角色檢查?所以這一點我是今天把它提出來如果有一個新的成立一個協會不能因為由台山,台山是國發會所投資的然後他就拍馬屁讓國發會來當主管機關 |
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讓國際化上一個大笑話好再來 |
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剛才有談到00940今天呢眾所矚目因為第一天的掛牌交易那也很不幸啊他今天第一天就掛那個跌破淨值那也可以看到在市場上有一些他們在揮血的有一些大戶都故意掛在9.87啊87量呢都是87張在某一個程度也是要可能是要消遣一下 |
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广大的可能他們會覺得這個可能會變成韭菜被收割的那如果繼續的下跌恐怕對於高達70萬的投資人來講可能他們覺得會很驚心動魄我們之前就有講到現在ETF如此的資金大量的流入ETF |
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是國內的一個資金動能資金是充沛的可是我們的投資的管道卻是有限的所以來我看下一頁今天我們特別提到我們要怎麼樣把它引導到社會住宅可是事實上整個的現在的 |
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王鴻薇 |
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但是同樣的主計處卻下修了今年的民間的投資率今年民間投資率事實上是被主計處他的估計是腰斬的從原來3.17現在修正到1.45所以這個是整體的其實老講我就是整個行政院未來的新政府應該整個的去 |
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主席王鴻薇議員 |
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財卷叫做什麼財我忘記了什麼永續債什麼之類的那財卷也不是第一次但是我想請問一下在你們發布要發行這個財卷之前有沒有跟金管會跟中央銀行開過會跟財政部開過會 |
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王委員第一個我們並沒有對外發布我們要發債券但是兩年來我們其實跟很多銀行跟金管會其實我們都私下都有溝通過有沒有找央行嘛有沒有找財政部嘛有沒有找金管會私下私下討論從來沒有正式的召開過會議 |
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從來never召開過正式的會議針對這個是大事欸所以說我們就在評估所以我們是用評估的方式來討論好只是評估然後我看你說執行金管會與協助發債券不單純是金管會啦是是還有中央銀行跟財政部是因為它有競合的關係嘛是是中央銀行有它的貨幣政策嘛是對不對是然後財政部也有它發債的這個需求嘛甚至主計處都要進來是 |
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所以我有點意外今天都已經作為正式的報告而且要一兆元的融資金額是非常非常大的如果按照這樣子下去你們恐怕會成為非營業基金裡面最大的這個負債因為你們發債嘛 對不對融資也好或發債也好那請問一下你們要發這個永續發展債券準備發多少錢 |
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所以次長你恐怕針對於金融市場除非金融市場把我們政府的話當成就是我不想講很難聽的話啦來不用理他可是一般來說政府要發這麼大金額的公債 |
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你大概每一年會多少? |
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然後有沒有跟中央銀行有沒有跟金管會聯絡過結果都沒有我覺得這變成一個不曉得什麼時候才會落實我時間暫停一下我今天要特別講剛才我們也看到有其他的委員在詢問說我們 |
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羅明財操委找我們幾位委員還有找這個保險局還有跟業者一起參與我覺得這個是非常正常的事情我跟大家講我同樣這一段時間我有受到包含我們的受險員工的聯合工會八大行窟的員工工會來跟我澄清來說明他們的需求 |
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我已經提案了針對受險員工的有關於他的一些勞資的權益要求金管會要會同勞動部來做修正這個我已經正式提案這個是在今天被爆料之前不是為了因應今天的爆料 |
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同樣的銀行約工會也跟我們提出了長期以來他們跟財政部爭取一直遲遲都沒有辦法達成的比如說他們覺得一國兩制生育的補助就是不一樣跟其他跟兆豐銀行、第一銀行、華南銀行通通不一樣那我們也決定要幫他提案所以對於立法委員來說我們今天要進入財委會 |
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要聽業者的意見也要聽員工的意見誰的意見有道理我們要幫他們爭取應該有的權益有什麼問題所以我要在這邊特別的強調如果拿這個做什麼樣的操作 |
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謝謝王鴻薇的諮詢,接著我們請李坤城委員的諮詢 |
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主席 |