| IVOD_ID |
150744 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150744 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-20-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-01T09:23:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-01T09:35:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/01d093d00f1a07c07757cab43e946578ee14ad7ded5d841af8ba9b0039caa7a64ecdb07f450427e85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林德福 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:23:42 - 09:35:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員會黃主任委員天牧、內政部、國家發展委員會就「如何積極推動金融業投注國內公共建設，並達成社宅百萬戶之政策目標」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月1日及3日二天一次會】） |
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兩年前住都中心為確保如期達成中央6.9萬戶直接興建社宅的任務委由台灣銀行籌辦4,119億元的社宅連帶案對於今年底要達成20萬戶的社宅目標並且這個下階段社宅2032年要達到100萬戶的目標請問 |
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今年底的二十萬戶設宅部分民間金融業到底有沒有參與?各位報告當然經建設宅因為主要都是靠資金融通所以說當然我們都有民間有沒有參與嗎?你是指資金的面還是?對阿資金阿 |
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就是跟銀行融資啊當然有啊有喔未來要達到百萬戶的社宅這個的規劃目標你認為到底有沒有吸引公民營的這些金融業者參與籌辦整個社宅興建年代案的誘因啊 |
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報告委員其實兩年前我們跟台銀那個八個行庫的連單案實質上所有行庫都非常積極非常樂意的來支持我們那當然現在民間的銀行這個部分參與的比較少啦比較少對啊這個部分你要有誘因啊你沒有誘因他們怎麼會參與對不對那個莊部長你也上來好不好 |
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委員好部長簽約投資公共建設金額年三年突破1800億元那請問部長要引導金融業投入國內的公共建設你認為有哪些條件是需要考量的 |
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市委員報告金融業要投資到公共建設如同剛剛黃主委已經提到第一個金融業他必須要考量這個收益性安全性以及流動性因為錢都來自存款戶跟保險戶這是金融業在投資有關公共建設的時候他必須考慮的因素那當然我們的促餐有一些案件他其實是也符合這樣的一個相關條件比如說像民生的公用事業下水道的 |
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湖水道的建設或者是說物流中心以及焚化爐等等這些都是具有一個吸引金融業來投資的一個部長以這幾年這個民間參與的績效來看你認為哪些國家的國內的公共建設類別啊對這些吸引金融業投注啊是具有比較大的吸引力也就是說他要符合剛剛我們所講的幾個特性就是安全性 |
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部長,111年底新增出倉法擴大民間參與公共建設的類別新增綠營、影視營、資源循環再利用等設施及數位建設請問以金融業投資來說你認為能不能成為吸引力的選項 |
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我覺得是應該是有的因為這些建設也第一個也是重要的國家的一些重要建設比如說像綠能建設數位建設 |
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都是國家非常重要的一個建設因為其實初三法修正以後其實我們還增加了一個所謂有償取得公共服務的一個機制也就是說民間機構投注到我們的初三的公共建設裡面提供一個優質服務以後政府是以購買公共服務的方式來支付金額這個部分對於它的一個收益性跟流動性其實安全性都是有相當大的一個助力 |
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另外你認為政府會不會考量提供更多這些租稅優惠來作為吸引金融業投注國內公共建設的誘因呢?跟委員報告在出產法裡面本身就有相關的租稅優惠它只要是屬於重大公共建設範圍的話 |
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您們兩個請回去 請金管會黃主委 |
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諸位 |
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各位委員報告 |
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對阿就目前的狀況來看齁 |
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這個成效是不是有達到預期?您認為呢?報告委員其實這個要看共幾面的情況就是我們其實在公共建設方面法規制度做了很多放寬包括參與公共建設董事監察員的比例都提高了可是看起來要有一個足夠讓保險業願意去投資的標底適當的期間跟報酬率才會促成兩倍的 |
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這是主要的誘因嗎?如果不如預期那到底問題出在哪裡?是不是有其他配套的方案? |
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風險係數下調後保險業持有的投資部位算出的風險資本也會減少有助拉高RBC主要 |
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目的是為了增強保險業投資國內公共建設的誘因至於業者是不是會加碼投資公共建設保險局也表示還是取決於業者對投資回報的風險等面向來做一個綜合考量主委財政部今年初統計2023年 |
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這個授權資金投入公共建設僅簽約兩個案子差不多合計的金額112.7億建樹還是4年來最少而且金額是創5年來最低媒體報導表示主要是保險業對收益率 |
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要求高,再加上防疫保單的後遺症請問主委以保險業目前的生態你認為國內公共建設有沒有足夠收益率的誘因能夠吸引這些保險業的資金投資嗎? |
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經歷這幾年獲利不如預期 |
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如2026年初就要接軌負債會計這個IFRS17和新清償能力指標ICS請問加碼投資國內公共建設你認為對保險業營運是不是有好的一個營運選項的考量其實委員在我們今天報告中特別有提到去年年底 |
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這樣齁?是。 |
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主委,上個禮拜公布2024年二月保險業獲利淨值和匯兌成本一月受選業大賺318億元那二月略降到211億元月減超33%累積兩個月賺了529億元 |
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已經比去年同期虧轉盈媒體報導今年前兩個月新台幣貶值授權業有較多匯兌的利益再加上台股兩個月漲到一萬八千多點二月漲到一萬八千多點三月初漲到超過兩萬點 |
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那有助授權業從股票實現資本利得來支撐獲利第一季獲利可能不錯的表現那請問主委你認為年初保險業的獲利是不是可以說是來自景氣互輸的反饋 |
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其實委員您是專家您剛提的那幾點就是原因了匯率的問題股市它的資本利得的這個收得那但是這個情況未來會不會延續我們不清楚對於台股投資人提醒八個字注意風險省慎選股對保險業也適用嗎你認為 |
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我想對任何金融業都是要注意風險風險關鍵很重要那可不可以適用就是注意風險省慎選股我覺得金融業要如履薄冰如林森淵今年應該風險有很多我們要注意的地方這樣喔好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝林德福委員質詢接著我們請吳秉樂委員質詢 |
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響鐘 |