| IVOD_ID |
150537 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150537 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-22-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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22 |
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教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-27T12:49:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-27T12:55:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9baf490faf5eb4d579d189f267d64bf552100ef94a0b7c33f8ba9b0039caa7a6fd270857351ac70d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:49:45 - 12:55:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請文化部部長史哲列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管預算(公務預算)解凍案8案。(如未接獲議事處來函，則不予處理或審查)【3月27日及28日二天一次會】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（12時49分）主席、各位委員，有請部長。 |
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主席：有請史部長。 |
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史部長哲：委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好。從今天你們提出的文化部業務報告中看到要推動籌建國家漫畫博物館、國家兒童未來館、國家鐵道博物館園區、國立臺灣歷史博物館二期計畫、國家電影及視聽文化中心二期工程，就原住民族的立場角度來看，非常非常的羨慕。反觀博物館法，文化部是博物館法的主管機關，沒有錯吧？ |
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史部長哲：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：博物館法第六條規定要興建原住民族的國立原住民族博物館，雖然負責的中央目的事業主管機關是原住民族委員會，但是從104年博物館法通過之後到現在毫無進度，各部會很多的意見，主計總處、甚至是人事行政總處或國發會都有很多的意見，我就不知道為什麼剛剛念的好幾個文化部要興建的博物館都這麼順利？之前我也質詢過文化部，希望能夠協助化解相關部會的這些意見。剛才我念的這些在業務報告所提的都是博物館法裡面沒有的喔！最明確的就是原住民族博物館，在博物館法第六條中有明確的規定，是不是能請文化部積極的協調相關部會，減少這些阻力？ |
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史部長哲：好，我聽我的同仁講，其實在這個過程中文化部都是表達支持，國家能有更多的公立博物館總是好的。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我知道你們支持。 |
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史部長哲：對。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我是說協助原民會去協調有意見的相關部會，好不好？ |
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史部長哲：如果有適當的機會…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：當然是適當，因為你們是法令的主管機關嘛！好不好？ |
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史部長哲：好，謝謝。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：再者，我們看這個是非常小的經費，卻是我從109年開始質詢到現在都沒有辦法完成的。這個是歷史建築、歷史建築，在成功鎮的宜灣教會，像這樣一個文化資產，因為我的協調、質詢，你們也開過會、也發過文，同意修繕這個歷史建築，宜灣長老教會。我也質詢過、文資局也答復了，你看這個每天遊客很多啊！這個地方是這樣的情形，你看教會的正門口還被圍起來不能進出、你看看這個歷史建築是這樣的！那麼多的遊客去到當地，結果看到的是這樣的狀況，外牆真的是剝落得非常非常嚴重，其實這個也沒有多少經費，根據文化資產保存法，該怎麼樣去協助？一筆小小的經費竟然需要質詢、協調這麼多次，我知道你們也協助過這個部分，但是不是要積極一點，部長？ |
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史部長哲：好，我們會積極處理這件事情，但是根據我的瞭解，是不是有產權上的爭議問題？ |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：那個已經解決了，你看這個照片，本來是圍起來的，現在已經沒有圍起來了。 |
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史部長哲：如果已經解決了，那就請地方政府趕快提報，我們會納入年度的專案處理。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：產權的爭議根本就是胡說八道，我說的是地方政府，為什麼呢？我們要修繕的是這個建築物，沒有產權的問題啊！是土地有一些爭議，事實上，就我們原住民族而言，那個根本就不是問題啊！ |
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史部長哲：但是文化資產還是有所有權。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：現在這個建築物並沒有產權的問題，不能以此作為理由，建築物沒有產權的問題，這樣瞭解嗎？ |
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史部長哲：好，我們會積極去瞭解，如果地方政府提報上來，我們一定會納入專案處理。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：請積極協助。 |
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史部長哲：好，謝謝委員。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員，再來請吳思瑤委員。 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、邀請文化部部長史哲列席報告業務概況，並備質詢；二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預
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主席、各位委員、有請部長。好,有請史部長。委員好。部長好。從今天你們所提出來的文化部的業務報告裡面 |
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這個要推動這個籌建國家漫畫博物館國家兒童未來館國家鐵道博物館延期還有這個國立臺灣歷史博物館二期計畫國家電影及視聽文化中心二期工程就原住民族的立場角度來看非常非常的羨慕反觀 |
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博物館法博物館法是文化部是主管機關沒有錯吧是好博物館法第6條啊他規定這個要興建原住民族的國立原住民族博物館雖然這個主管機關負責的是中央目的所以主管機關是原住民族委員會但是從104年博物館法 |
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通過之後到現在毫無進度各部會很多的意見主計總署甚至人事行政總署國發會很多意見我就不曉得為什麼剛提的我念了好幾個文化部的都這麼順利我之前也執行過這個文化部希望能夠去協助化解 |
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這個相關部會的這些意見因為博物館法您訂的剛才我念了這些啊你業務報告所提的都是博物館法裡面沒有的喔最明確的就是原住民主博物館在博物館法第6條明確的規定所以這個部分這個請文化部是不是能夠積極的去協調相關的部會減少這些阻力 |
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我聽過同仁講我們其實在這個過程當中文化部都是表達支持啦是都是表達支持我們當然是對於國家能夠有多更多的功利博物館我知道你們是支持啦我知道是協助人民會去協調相關有意見的這些好不好如果有適當的機會有適當啦當然是適當因為你是法律的主管機關嘛好不好好 謝謝好 |
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我們看這個非常小的經費確實我從109年開始質詢到現在都沒有辦法完成了這個是歷史建築歷史建築宜灣教會在成功鎮像這樣的一個 |
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吾知吾化吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾化部吾化資產及吾 |
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是這樣的一個情形你看這個教會的正門口還被還被圍起來不能進出然後經過你看看這個歷史建築是這樣的那麼多的遊客去那邊結果看到的是這樣 |
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真的是一個外強撥落的非常非常的嚴重所以文化資產保存法所以這個也沒有多少經費怎麼樣去協助竟然一個小小的一個經費要質詢協調這麼多次所以這個部分我知道你們也去協助過但是是不是積極一點 |
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市長我們會來積極推特只是我所了解好像是不是有有產權上的爭議的問題那個已經解決了解決了所以你看這個照片如果已經解決了你看這個照片本來圍起來現在變圍起來了如果已經解決那就請地方政府趕快來提報即使那個產權的爭議根本就是胡說八道我說那個地方政府為什麼呢 |
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這個建築物我們要修繕的是這個建築物沒有產權的問題啊是那個土地是土地有一些爭議事實上土地也就我們原住民族而言根本就不是問題啊對但是因為文化資產還是有所有權現在這個建築物是沒有產權的問題不能作為這個理由建築物沒有產權的問題 |
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請積極協助 |