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| 日期 |
2024-03-25 |
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| 開始時間 |
2024-03-25T12:03:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-25T12:10:49+08:00 |
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| 委員名稱 |
洪申翰 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:03:51 - 12:10:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會「海洋保育法草案」公聽會 |
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主席然後那今天有很多相關的部會跟今天也有很多我們出席的包括專家學者或漁民漁會的代表今天一起到這個公聽會上面來討論海洋保育法因為大概在會會 |
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海洋保育法草案公聽委員 |
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那當然我想大家都知道海保法的律法當然對於落實海洋保育其實是非常非常重要的功能所以其實有很多的這些長期立志在海洋保育的朋友或團體其實非常期待尤其在去年3月聯合國也宣布通過這個全球海洋公約之後 |
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那當然這陣子其實我們也聽到有一些其他的部門包括漁業部門、能源部門或運輸部門其實有一些聲音那大家擔心的事情就是在海域空間使用上面的爭議或者是衝突會不會這個再度發生的狀況那我們怎麼處理尤其是現在大家在談到2050淨零排放也包括能源轉型的幾個目標那 |
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也剛才大家也提到像離岸風電會不會遇到海洋生態造成影響的這個狀況那或者是怎麼去做相關的評估也包括如果真的發生了衝突以後這個衝突要怎麼去調節跟管理那當然還有最重要當然今天在座我看到很多都是關心漁業權的問題 |
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其實這些在過去一年多我自己有看到海保署是有做一些努力在跟其他部門來做這些溝通來爭取各界的信任雖然目前聽起來大家還是有一些擔憂但我至少聽起來有幾個部分看起來想法是相近的看起來大家都是同意要針對海洋生態的多樣性來進行保育都會覺得這部分恐怕是需要做更多我覺得這部分看起來聽起來大家是贊同的 |
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沒有人認為海洋生態是不需要保育的尤其是需要做更多只是現在問題是在做法跟法規的訂定跟機制的建立上面要怎麼更細緻的處理就我目前今天整個早上的公聽會下來大家關心的是做法上面的工作我這邊有兩個比較重要的建議的原則第一個原則是海洋保育勢必不是要來跟產業發展為敵的 |
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海洋治理不可或缺的一部分也就是必須以科學為本尤其是假設又要去化解大家在保育跟產業上面衝突的話更需要利據這些詳細而且真實的科學的資訊這是第一個原則第二個原則是必須要消除不同利害關係人的疑慮的時候 |
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也要降低化受海洋屁股區相關的正義化那現在我們在審議的機制裡面必須要明確的納入不同利害關係人參與的權利這必須被保障所以在這點裡面在我自己提出來的版本其實也募集參考了一些遠距法的精神在條文中希望能夠對於審議會裡面各不同參加的代表 |
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海洋保育法草案公聽會議 |
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過去其實是有一些這些公民科學家和公民團體其實就有反映臺灣的海洋基礎報告的資料尤其是物種的多樣性跟關鍵物種的生態的狀況數量區域跟動態變化這些基礎資料其實都相當的缺乏 |
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洪申翰 |
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所以如果我們相關單位有做科學研究我認為我們應該要在這個海洋保育法的規範裡面要要求更大程度的公佈相關的科研的結果來開放大家能夠對於這些結果能夠有參與或進一步的下一步的工作才能夠讓這套治理能夠真正的發揮功效來減少衝突 |
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那當然除了剛剛講的基礎調查以外包括海域的管理跟海洋保育的教育包括尤其是監控相關的這個工作其實也是會是非常非常重要的一環所以最後我要提的事情是說我們其實都知道在海洋利用的部門跟主管機關其實很多尤其是以現在來說以離岸風電或漁業就是一個例子 |
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海岸管理法和勢力保育法的這個主管的機關所以為了接下來我自己也希望說如果真的我們要進入審議的話我們也希望能夠用一些附帶決議的方式來去規範這麼複雜的這個主管機關在相對應重要的工作上面他的每個的角色跟工作我們不應該因為都通過了一個法 |
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所以讓剛剛很多相關他可能一些座位必須升起的工作變得更加的複雜或者是更加的多頭馬車在主管機關的這個尤其是跨部會機制的規範上面把它建立起來我覺得也可以讓今天在座一些相關的利害相關人他自己有一些相必須保障的權益的時候不會這個在這個主管機關的茫茫大海裡面覺得有更多的成本 |
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洪申翰委員 |