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150199 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150199 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-36-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
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委員會 |
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司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-21T09:40:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-21T09:47:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1be549810cdc3052f715d328d3609d467dd815aba809727bf8ba9b0039caa7a69b283f5c5a56e13d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:40:39 - 09:47:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請立法院秘書長列席就「中華民國總統至立法院進行國情報告及詢答模式之建議」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝委員龍介：（9時40分）請兩位秘書長。 |
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主席：麻煩兩位秘書長。 |
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謝委員龍介：總統到立法院來報告，這一次算是最好的一個時機，就是朝野幾乎也都不排斥，但是我個人認為詢答的方式應該給予元首適度的尊重跟空間，要給予尊重，那就看黨團最後協商怎麼樣，但是這次是歷屆以來氣氛最好，我想賴清德副總統也不會排斥，願意到立法院來。 |
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另外一個問題我請教吳秘書長，你經常講院際之間要相互尊重，上個禮拜五大法官的釋憲案，針對無期徒刑假釋以後再犯本來要關滿25年這部分，大法官說違憲，那你說違憲應該要回到立法院來訂定刑的執行，你不是啊，你大法官的指引就寫了，如果再犯他是犯了5年以下的罪，那就關10年；再犯5年到10年的罪關幾年，擺明就是剝奪了立法院的立法權嘛，本席在此嚴重地抗議！希望你回去跟大法官講一下，你不是說院際要相互尊重嗎？ |
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吳秘書長三龍：向委員說明…… |
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謝委員龍介：這個可以說明。 |
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吳秘書長三龍：本院大法官職掌解釋憲法並主持憲法法庭行使審判權，這是有明文規定的，所以就個案如何處理，大法官他當然有一定的解釋…… |
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謝委員龍介：本席已經跟你表達嚴重的抗議，你可以轉告給他聽！ |
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周秘書長，正人必先正己，立法院風風雨雨，我請教你，撤換總務處長你有向院長建議嗎？是不是你建議的？ |
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周秘書長萬來：沒有，因為人事權是在院長，不是我。 |
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謝委員龍介：沒有？你沒有建議？ |
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周秘書長萬來：我沒有建議。 |
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謝委員龍介：你不是建議很多嗎？ |
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周秘書長萬來：我沒有建議，因為人事權是在院長身上，幕僚長是秉持他的決定…… |
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謝委員龍介：那你覺得有沒有問題啊？我跟你講，本席對於所謂的裝修費跟買傢俱的費用，我是不核銷的，為什麼？我看了會怕，1,000塊的東西變8,000塊，如果我到研究室看到那個東西這麼貴，我每天心情就會很差。因為我問了，檢調幾乎不敢到立法院來調查，今天法務部長沒有來，本席可不可以正式提出告發？ |
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周秘書長萬來：因為要數據上真的有才…… |
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謝委員龍介：有很多啊！有很多。 |
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周秘書長萬來：因為要告發的大概要看當事人本身有沒有這樣的一個情形，如果說…… |
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謝委員龍介：沒有，就是告發，然後他們到立法院來查，你願意配合嗎？ |
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周秘書長萬來：我跟謝委員報告院裡面的情況給謝委員瞭解，因為你如果說告發是當事人有需要被搜索，當然立法院會配合處理，以前都有例子啦！你說檢察官認為他…… |
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謝委員龍介：如果今天立法院不能正己，你讓每個部會到這邊來，我們要求每個部會怎麼做，我們要去揭弊，我們要挑出部會的問題，你不會覺得很丟臉嗎？我會覺得很丟臉！ |
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周秘書長萬來：我知道，我知道，謝謝你的指教。我接了秘書長以後，我對各個單位當然都會非常謹慎地在督導，因為從法上來講，當然我要監督所屬，依組織法規定，秘書長的職務當然要監督所屬的職員，承院長之命監督，我既然接了秘書長，當然對各部門都會很審慎地去督導，謝謝你的指導，只要我擔任秘書長一天…… |
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謝委員龍介：我跟你講，在這個月啦！到月底以前，我請秘書長去清查一下大概有什麼案件，不然我在4月份就會正式告發，這樣好不好？ |
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周秘書長萬來：是，我會去瞭解，謝謝你。 |
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謝委員龍介：我一定會，因為正己才能正人嘛！不然我在這邊幹立法委員，我對著部會首長挑出他們的問題跟毛病的時候，他們私底下在笑我們立法院啊！我這樣講你有瞭解嗎？ |
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周秘書長萬來：瞭解，謝謝你。 |
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謝委員龍介：拜託秘書長在月底以前清查一下，院長如果有這個魄力，院長願意改革，這就是你最大的後盾跟靠山。 |
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周秘書長萬來：好，謝謝。 |
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謝委員龍介：清一清，把這些蒼蠅、蚊子、蝨母全部都抓出來，立法院如果乾淨了，這些部會就不敢亂來了！好不好？ |
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周秘書長萬來：謝謝指導，謝謝。 |
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主席：秘書長，你不會查的話，我幫你查也可以。 |
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好，我們先做一個宣告，因為今天有委員提出臨時提案，所以我們稍後依前例在早上11點的時候處理，如果到時候委員正在詢答，那我們在該位委員詢答完畢之後就進行臨時提案之處理。 |
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我們接下來繼續請莊委員瑞雄進行詢答。 |
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邀請立法院秘書長列席就「中華民國總統至立法院進行國情報告及詢答模式之建議」進行專題報
告，並備質詢 |
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總統到立法院來報告這是我們這一次算是最好的一個時機就是草野幾乎都也不排斥 |
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但是我個人啊認為說詢答的方式啊應該給予元首適度的尊重跟空間這個一個尊重那就看黨團最後呢協商怎麼樣但是這次呢是歷屆以來啊氣氛最好那我想賴清德副總統他也不會排斥願意到立法院來那另外一個問題我請教那個吳秘書長 |
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你經常講這個願績之間要相互尊重那上個禮拜五大法官的釋憲說無期徒刑假釋以後那再犯本來要關門二十五年他說違憲那你說違憲呢應該要回到立法院來訂定那個刑的執行你不是啊 |
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你大法官的職域你就寫啦如果再犯他是犯了五年以下那就關十年五年到十年關幾年擺明就是剝奪了立法院的立法權嘛本身在這嚴重的抗議啦希望你回去齁 給大法官講一下你不是說院紀要相互尊重嗎 |
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這個像委員說明這個可以說明這個 |
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本院大法官執掌解釋憲法．並主持憲法法庭行使審判前這個是規定啦這個是有明文規定所以這個就個案如何處理那大法官他當然有一定的解釋本車已經把你表達嚴重的抗議啦你可以專告給他聽啦周秘書長政人必先政及 |
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那你覺得有沒有問題啊 |
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我跟你講我本期喔對於這個所謂的裝修費啦跟買這個家具的費用啊我是不合交啦為什麼我看到會怕一千塊的東西變八千塊如果我到研究室看到那個東西是這麼貴我每天心情就會很壞那你認為本院啊因為啊我問了 |
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檢調幾乎不敢到立法院來調查那本席可不可以提出今天法務部長沒有來可不可以正式告發 |
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因為要有這個數據上真的有才有很多啊有很多因為要告發的大概你說當事人本身他有沒有這樣的一個就告發然後他們到立法院來查你願意配合嗎 |
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因為我跟謝委員這樣報告我在院裡面的情況給謝委員瞭解因為你如果說告他是當事人有需要搜索當然立法院會配合的處理這裡面以前都有例在你說檢察官認為他如果今天立法院不能政級你讓每個部會到這邊來 |
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我們要求每個部會怎麼做?我們要去揭弊?我們要挑出部會的問題?你會不會覺得很嚴肅?我會不會覺得很嚴肅?我知道 我知道 謝謝你 謝謝你的指教我們大概 我覺得秘書長以後啊當然我對各個單位啊當然我們都會有非常謹慎的在督導啦 |
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在這個月 到月底以前 |
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我請秘書長你清查一下大概什麼案件若不然我四月份我就會正式告發這樣好不好所以我會去了解 謝謝你我要一定證人 證集才能證人嘛在這邊幹立法委員我對著部會所長挑起他們的問題跟毛病的時候他們私底下在笑我們立法院啊 |
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我講這樣你有瞭解嗎?謝謝你謝謝你在議場拜託秘書長請紮一下他中有這個法律他中有文藝改革這就是你最大的後盾跟靠山好 謝謝輕輕的把這裡的國情報告全部都拿出來立法院如果請起這補貨就不夠後備來啦好不好?謝謝指導 謝謝 |
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秘書長你不會查的話我幫你查還可以啊對啊好那我們接下來請 |