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150029 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150029 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-15-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-18T12:36:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-18T12:43:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:36:40 - 12:43:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【3月18日及20日二天一次會】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（12時36分）主席，有請部長。 |
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主席：好，我們有請林部長。 |
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林部長右昌：Nga'ay ho，委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好，Nga'ay ho，辛苦了。部長，我要跟你談不在籍投票，希望能夠從原住民族的立法委員開始實施不在籍投票。今年印尼在臺灣實施不在籍投票，在今年的2月14日，印尼的移工在臺灣實施不在籍投票，你看這個地址是花蓮瑞穗鄉，我的媽媽89歲，照顧我媽媽的外勞是印尼人，他在臺灣已經投票兩次了，今年2月14日，印尼的總統大選和國會議員選舉，我家外勞的老公8個月前來到臺灣，因為缺工，所以他進來了，他8個月前來，就有投票權，他不用申請，印尼政府直接就給他寄投票通知單，他不是到臺北投票，在花蓮就可以投票。我請外交部提供印尼在臺灣實施不在籍投票的資料，從103年就開始實施了，經過103年、108年、113年，已經3次了，我們自稱為民主法治國家，連在臺灣都沒有辦法實施不在籍投票，而印尼幅員遼闊，他們的移工到臺灣都可以直接實施不在籍投票，所以這個部分我們真的要改進，我們就從最簡單的做起，臺灣很小，跟印尼比，我們真的很小，但是我們卻沒有辦法做到，尤其是原住民立委的選區是臺澎金馬，每個地方都有投票所，是最容易實施的，對不對？是最容易實施的，我就不曉得為什麼我們要跑到這麼遠的地方去投票，所以你看看我們的投票率，原住民立法委員跟非原住民立法委員投票率差距這麼大，所以這個就是一個非常容易做的卻不做。本席提出公職選舉罷免法第十七條修正案，針對原住民立法委員先實施。我也提出總統副總統罷免法第十三條修正案，也是針對原住民立法委員先實施不在籍投票，卻是沒辦法做到。本席第1次提案是在105年，106年12月7日內政委員會審查通過，108年3月11日完成朝野協商，很遺憾的，沒有完成三讀，我上一屆也提了，這一次又提了。部長，可不可以先實施？這是最容易的。 |
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林部長右昌：非常謝謝委員，這些都研議過，因為國情的狀況真的還是不太一樣，第一個，比如說中央選舉，如果要這樣子做的話，大概會有76種選票，也就是區域立委分3種，然後有分政黨，有分山地跟平地原住民，所以加起來會有76種選票，在實際的選務上面會有執行上的困難，所以在政策上面還是希望從有一致性的選舉做起，比如說從公投案來先行，至於選舉的部分，可能還要再看後續推動的狀況。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長，你被同仁誤導了，我強調的是原住民立法委員先實施不在籍投票，跟你剛才講的完全無關。好，我們就講總統選舉，選區是臺澎金馬，對不對？原住民立法委員選舉選區也是臺澎金馬，有什麼困難？從上一屆我質詢中選會，他們都說完全沒有問題，在作業上完全沒有問題，在作業上完全沒有問題，所以這個是可以做的，我剛剛講的，人家從國外來到臺灣，都可以實施，我們只不過是在臺灣，而且範圍限縮再限縮，到原住民立法委員的選舉，中選會都說完全沒有困難，但是他們每次都說，因為這個法律不是他們主管的，是內政部主管的。部長，可以嗎？我們都有提案，請召委安排。 |
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主席：好，希望部長能夠也樂觀其成。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：接下來談宗教團體以自然人名義登記不動產處理暫行條例，這個法律當初審查的時候是我主持的，但是很多都沒有辦法被接受，所以現在已經實施一段時間了，請內政部把目前這個條例實施的結果，提個書面資料給我，可以嗎？ |
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林部長右昌：沒問題。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：多久可以？ |
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林部長右昌：一個月內。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，一個月。好，謝謝。 |
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林部長右昌：謝謝。 |
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主席：好，非常謝謝部長的回應。也謝謝鄭天財委員的質詢。一個月之內送達，除了鄭委員辦公室之外，也給我們其他的原住民立法委員。好，謝謝。 |
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繼續我們請王鴻薇、王鴻薇、王鴻薇委員質詢。王鴻薇委員不在。 |
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請張雅琳、張雅琳、張雅琳委員質詢。張雅琳委員不在。 |
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繼續請伍麗華委員質詢。 |
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主席有請部長我們有請您部長部長好辛苦了部長跟你談不再起投票希望能夠從原住民族的立法委員實施不再起投票我們看這個今年 |
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印尼在臺灣實施不再起投票在今年的2月14日印尼的外勞在我們來說外勞印尼的移工在臺灣實施不再起投票這個你看這個地址這個下面的地址是花蓮瑞穗鄉我的媽媽89歲 |
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照顧我媽媽的老公外勞是印尼的他在台灣已經投票兩次了那今年2月14日印尼的總統大選還有國會議員這個他的老公我的外勞我家的外勞的老公8個月前來到台灣因為切工所以他進來了 |
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外交部提供 |
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印尼在台灣實施不再舉投票103年就開始了103年108年113年已經三次了所以這個部分我們真的是我們自稱為民主法治國家連在台灣我們都沒辦法實施 |
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所以這個真的是印尼幅員遼闊他們的移工到臺灣都可以直接就實施所以這個部分這個部長真的是要我們就先從最簡單的為什麼原住民族我們非常這個臺灣很小要跟印尼比我們真的很小但是我們卻沒有辦法做到 |
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尤其是原住民的立委的選區台澎金馬每個地方都有投票所最容易實施的對不對最容易實施的我就不曉得為什麼我們要跑到這麼遠的地方去投票所以我們的投票率你看看原住民的立法委員跟非原住民的投票率的差距這麼大 |
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啊這麼大所以這個就是一個非常容易做的卻是不做啊本席啊 |
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這個也提出公職委員選舉罷免法第17條的修正草案針對原住民的立法委員先實施這個我也提出總統副總統罷免法第13條的修正草案也是針對原住民的立法委員先實施不再舉投票確實沒辦法做到本席在第一次提案是105年了106年 |
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12月7日內政委員會審查通過108年3月11日完成草野協商很遺憾的沒有完成三讀我上一屆也提了這一次又提了這一屆又提了部長可不可以先實施這是最容易的非常謝謝委員 |
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大概這些都演繹過我們因為國情的狀況真的還是不太一樣那第一個是現在如果比如說是中央的選舉的話那如果要這樣子做的話大概會有76種的選票 |
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部長,您被同仁護倒了。 |
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我強調的是原住民的立法委員先實施不再起投票跟你剛才講的完全無關好我們就講總統選舉台澎金馬對不對原住民的選舉立法委員也是台澎金馬有什麼困難中選會從上一屆我質詢中選會 |
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他們都說完全沒有問題在作業上完全沒有問題在作業上完全沒有問題所以這個可以做的講了剛剛的理由人家從國外來到台灣都可以實施我們只不過是在台灣而且在限收在限收到原住民的立法委員的選舉 |
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公選會都說完全沒有困難但是每一次都說因為這個法律不是我主管是內政部可以嗎因為我們都有提案請這個召委能夠安排 |
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希望部長能夠也認為樂觀其成宗教團體以自然的名義登記不動產處理戰刑條例這個已經這個法例當初審查了所以我主持的但是很多都沒有辦法這個被接受所以現在已經實施一段時間了請內政部把目前 |
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實施的結果目前這個條例實施的結果提個書面資料給我可以嗎好沒問題好多久可以一個月內好一個月好謝謝非常謝謝我們的部長的回應也謝謝鄭天財委員的質詢 |