| IVOD_ID |
149847 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/149847 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2024030618 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
「詐欺犯罪防制立法及各部會打詐機制盤點」公聽會 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-14T09:55:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-14T10:03:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
吳宗憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:14 - 10:03:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會公聽會（事由：「詐欺犯罪防制立法及各部會打詐機制盤點」公聽會） |
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好 謝謝主席我想就是我這邊先簡單做因為這邊在場有很多都是我以前司法官訓練所的指導老師還有以前一起辦案的戰友們我想說問題在哪裡我們都很清楚我今天想提一個東西就是說公欲善其事必先利其器我非常的清楚現在打詐遇到一個很大的問題就是 |
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主席 |
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吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員 |
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這是我們現在會面臨的問題所以請大家瞭解一件事法定型的加重再怎麼加重你很難遏止他們不做壞事 |
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法官的宣告型也不一定跟得上來法條定得很重法官不一定判重所以到最後我們一直在加重立法的刑度達不到效果我們真的能夠有效果的當然第一個法官判決要加重第二個你要給檢方給警察足夠的偵查工具他才有辦法積極的能夠完成打詐的效果我們請那個邱姓名檢察官來我先幾個問題先請教你那個 |
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目前法務部對於基層檢察官有沒有提供足夠的辦案資源還有職職上的協助 |
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現在面臨最大的問題目前提供實質上的協助 |
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傳統早期在88年、89年設置的假事務官除了一般傳統法律人之外他們是有電子資訊組的 |
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委員會主席 |
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李卓人議員 |
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李卓人議員 |
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人力之外那個數位採證室目前成效好不好好那有關於數位採證室的部分那其實設置的部分因為這樣人頭的案子進來之後然後加上我們會請尤其有些被告會提供一些手機的部分那我們當然會請那個地檢署因為地檢署現在都有設置數位採證室除了就是我們所知道的像像刑事局或者是電話局他們有數位採證之外那因為為了去紓解他們的 |
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吳宗憲 |
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那我請教一下那個黃副局長就是目前這個因為外交上面的問題然後還有就是沒有兩岸共打那這一塊我們將來怎麼有沒有補位的因為我想今天雖然是公聽會但是我希望聽到因為大家講的東西不一定是我們認為真正的核心問題那我想說我請教您一件事情就是你可不可以跟我們大家講一下 |
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兩岸公島現在沒有繼續了嘛那也沒有外交的問題那現在有一些有沒有什麼補位的方式還有另外就是錢會出去國外IP在國外有沒有辦法處理 |
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跟委員報告前會出去國外目前確實是比較困難的地方因為歹徒用跳板用VPN去做這個隱匿身份確實是比較難以追查不過我們現在已經在科技偵查法也好通訊保障局偵查法也好一直在想辦法把一些相關的紀錄跟流量可以做一定的處理那未來我們是有信心可以去增加這個查到的機率那當然是 |
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司法互助及兩岸共打這都是我們要持續努力的目標也是我們政府應該努力的目標今天不是質詢啦就是說我想說點出幾個因為我看了大家的那個報告還有 |
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民眾在乎的雖然說第一個詐騙案件數這麼高是一個重點第二個每一個被騙的人都問我一個東西我的錢要不要的回來所以我們國家是不是應該在這塊上面要用點心力 |
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現在IP在國外我們就拿他沒辦法錢匯出國外我們也拿他沒辦法但是被害人他不是在乎他的主要在乎不是這個人被判多久而是我的錢拿不拿得回來但是我們一直著重在我們要怎麼樣加這些人的刑度大家忘了一件事這些辛苦的人民他的錢拿不回來所以我剛剛請教大家的問題其實中國一個最核心的問題就在這裡 |
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吳宗憲 |
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謝謝吳召偉在這裡也謝謝剛剛專委員的代理主持 |