| IVOD_ID |
149727 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/149727 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-1-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第4次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期第4次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-12T15:38:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-12T15:54:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3a8d0956074a2938fe482c17c244e09004b328b65eecebe0f8ba9b0039caa7a6b066f83588e7a26e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:38:32 - 15:54:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第4次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。
二、3月8日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。
三、3月12日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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蘇委員清泉：（15時38分）謝謝主席，我們請院長。 |
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主席：麻煩再請陳院長備詢。 |
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陳院長建仁：蘇委員午安，恭喜你當選立委，很高興看到你在這裡。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我是新科的老兵啦。院長，你現在要做到520之前，之後你的任期也可能會結束啦…… |
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陳院長建仁：是，會結束。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我要請你講一講，對於你們內閣的表現，你覺得怎麼樣？ |
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陳院長建仁：我感覺……我都不替自己打分數的，但是我的內閣我們的同仁大家都很認真、很努力，過去你如果看我們的經濟成長也好，或是防疫的工作也好，或是農業發展也好，委員你也很清楚嘛，都有進步，所以我感覺確確實實大家都在做福國利民的事情，我很感謝他們。 |
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蘇委員清泉：今天媒體也報了很多，我們經濟部剛才我們的部長有說，但是五缺的問題，再來蛋的問題，我們的數位部唐鳳部長網路作戰的問題，還有我們的農業部，喔，問題有夠多的。我們屏東是農業縣，包括巴拉刈被禁止使用、開放萊豬，然後還有班班吃石斑，我等一下就要說石斑了。 |
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陳院長建仁：對，石斑…… |
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蘇委員清泉：也跳票了，然後雞蛋的問題，還有交通部違規記點的問題搞得大家都在譙，這都是小破口、大破口，在這次的選舉就被人家狠狠的攻擊，所以你的看法是怎麼樣？ |
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陳院長建仁：我也是覺得確確實實我們有一些應該要改進、還需要再進步的地方，但是我們也很感謝，我們臺灣的人民也確確實實有看到我們民進黨進步的地方，所以才會讓我們民進黨有繼續執政的機會，這也是在賴清德副總統未來帶領的時候，我想我們的新內閣和舊內閣一定會無縫接軌，繼續來努力，讓臺灣的經濟越來越好，讓大家的生活過得愈來愈美滿。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我們請農業部長也上來。 |
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主席：請農業部備詢。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：委員好。 |
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蘇委員清泉：你有沒有認同陳吉仲給你帶來很多很多的麻煩？ |
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陳代理部長駿季：我想我們陳前部長本身在過去這七、八年來其實做了非常多過去三、四十年沒有做的農業政策改革。 |
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蘇委員清泉：好，我現在開始講我們的屏東縣，我們全臺灣的農業人口包括農業、漁業加起來差不多80萬，將近81萬，屏東縣就占了38萬，所以農業、漁業、養殖等等對屏東縣來講是很重要的，是重中之重。 |
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陳院長建仁：沒有錯。 |
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蘇委員清泉：然後現在的總統還是屏東枋山的人，但是我不覺得你們有照顧我們屏東的農漁民，不太有在照顧，就像是放生一樣，讓我們自生自滅。 |
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陳院長建仁：我剛好在禮拜天才去屏東，屏東有很多冷鏈、包裝的技術等等，還有水果的發展也很好，當然有一些外銷的部分因為外銷國的抵制讓我們有一些困難，我們一定會努力來拓展其他更多的外銷。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我跟院長講一下，我們韓院長在高雄那邊也很認真，我們屏東的石斑跟午仔魚1年的產值超過一百多億，所以在2022年6月中國大陸那邊停掉之後，我們就很積極的在處理，我跟全國漁會前理事長黃一成拚得要死，包括水質管理、履歷、QR Code、藥檢等等，跟屏東科技大學非常密切，一趟來、一趟去。那我要跟部長報告，對岸的海關總署不是吃素的，它也很嚴格，我們這邊是很低的檢出，他們是要求零檢出，包括土黴素、四環素，院長，你也是做了很多的實驗。最近有7家養殖業者有通過，我們真的是非常用心的輔導，然後現在量也出來了，我們的珍珠斑、龍虎斑本來1臺斤都差不多100元、110元、120元，最近已經漲到190元、200元、210元了，1隻魚苗直接從15元漲到26元，真的是很令人欣慰。漁業署應該要配合來鼓勵我們，而不是放冷箭、講一些負面的話，我們不希望有這種事情。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：我跟委員報告，關於石斑的部分，最主要是在屏東，養殖面積大概有一千四百多公頃，但是在中國大陸禁止以後，其實包括委員也一起協助我們業者改善養殖的環境，然後我們也對這樣的環境跟中國那邊提交一些相關的改進措施，可是他們都沒有回應我們。雖然他們現在開放了7家可以銷大陸，不過我們臺灣目前總共有四百多家，所以我們也把這四百多家提交過去，希望他們開放更多，而不是只有這7家可以輸往大陸，這是第一個。第二個部分，因為那時候石斑大部分都是銷大陸，國內、美國還是其他國家都不太瞭解，我們也剛好趁這個機會讓我們國內的消費者很喜歡這樣的石斑，特別是在美國用切片的方式，我想我們的外銷成長量都滿高的。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我們有試銷到美國，但石斑的成果不好。院長，我跟你說，美國人不太喜歡吃石斑，而且又貴，他們是吃魚片，最好是鯰魚，很大尾的鯰魚。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：我們的石斑也是用切片的過去。 |
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蘇委員清泉：對啦！那個頭就占很大，我對石斑是有夠用心的。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：瞭解。 |
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陳院長建仁：我知道，你是專家。 |
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蘇委員清泉：所以我是要農業部漁業署要鼓勵，當然會把這些加速擴增，我們最近有在…… |
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陳代理部長駿季：對，我們也一直在努力。 |
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蘇委員清泉：希望漁業署要好好的來幫忙啦！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：會，這一定會的。 |
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蘇委員清泉：不要不幫忙還在那裡修理東、修理西，這不行！院長你要跟我承諾一下。 |
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陳院長建仁：委員，其實有兩部分，第一個就是銷大陸的部分，我們要怎麼來改進，這個很重要；第二個就是剛才說的，我們銷國外的部分，在外國的市場，他們大部分都吃魚排、fillet，所以就是我們要有處理，當然你說那個魚頭要怎麼辦？魚頭的銷路是一個問題，但是那個魚片、魚排的部分，其實這個銷路外國也是有接受喔！ |
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蘇委員清泉：我們現在遠洋漁撈跟近海漁撈占我們的總漁獲量差不多三成而已。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：對。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我們的箱網養殖、岸上養殖跟內陸養殖占了70%左右。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：大概六成五。 |
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蘇委員清泉：所以養殖對我們來講太重要了。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：是。 |
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蘇委員清泉：而且高屏尤其是屏東，一定要加強輔導再輔導。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：會，我們會加強。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我們希望院長跟部長你們要care這一塊，好不好？ |
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陳院長建仁：好，我們一定care，我們全力以赴啦！ |
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蘇委員清泉：最近我們萬巒還有內埔那邊的百香果，我最近一直都在處理，我也很高興我們的農糧署也有在幫忙，就是有一個雜誌社還有一個營養師用你們110年的data，然後就發表什麼百香果的農藥殘留是最多的，胡說八道！他是用110年的資料。我要問部長，你們有110年的data，但為何沒有111、112年的？ |
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陳代理部長駿季：我跟委員報告，他們在網路報告的是拿110年到111年的資料，當場我們也是馬上去查過去的資料，因為百香果是屬於連續採收型的，平均的農藥殘留率大概是10%，我也知道百香果在全國的面積差不多是1,939公頃，雖然屏東只占5%，差不多46公頃，可是屏東的百香果非常特殊…… |
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蘇委員清泉：現在100公頃以上啦！現在占三成了！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：沒有到三成啦！大概5%到6%…… |
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蘇委員清泉：院長，我要跟你報告，我們都是學公衛的人，我們都希望屏東的檳榔可以轉作。 |
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陳院長建仁：對。 |
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蘇委員清泉：屏東的檳榔1萬3,000公頃左右，現在都在轉作，有的是改種百香果，農業部會予以補助，給它做網室，網室根本都履歷的，根本就沒有在噴農藥，結果這樣下去，大家都死光光，本來一箱一千多塊，現在只剩四、五百。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：我跟委員報告，屏東的百香果非常特殊，因為它有做一些網室，就是委員剛才說的。 |
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蘇委員清泉：沒錯！沒錯！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：所以它的品質比中部的好很多，所以我們一直努力的去做。 |
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陳院長建仁：要宣導啦！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：第二點，我也跟委員報告，在報紙刊出之後，因為那是過去的資料，所以我們馬上去抽檢…… |
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蘇委員清泉：我也沒有看到你們有提供他們什麼幫助啊！也沒有發布新聞等等。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：那時候沒辦法發布新聞，因為113年那時候我們馬上去抽檢，到昨日為止，屏東總共抽檢21件，全部合格，這個訊息明天就會有新聞稿，因為當時他是用110年的資料，所以我沒辦法馬上說屏東沒問題，所以我們去抽檢，也確定21個樣品裡面完全合格，表示說我們屏東的農民是非常重視。 |
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蘇委員清泉：你在這邊講沒有用啦！你要發表一下啦！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：我明天就會發新聞稿，因為我們昨天就把這個資料統計出來了以後，明天就會發新聞稿。 |
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陳院長建仁：有數據啦！ |
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蘇委員清泉：學者沒用啦！那些農民是血淋淋的啦！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：瞭解。 |
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陳院長建仁：沒有啦…… |
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蘇委員清泉：我是心臟外科醫師…… |
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陳院長建仁：明天要發表的就是他們有用網室栽培。 |
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蘇委員清泉：他們是完全幾乎沒有用農藥嘛，對不對？部長，沒有錯吧？ |
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陳代理部長駿季：對，他們有用一些有機資材，有部分的農藥，但是農藥一定都在合格的範圍之內啦，所以我們檢測是完全OK的。 |
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蘇委員清泉：大家都哭哭啼啼的。 |
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陳院長建仁：委員，我們一起努力來澄清啦！ |
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蘇委員清泉：再來，因為寒流啦、吹南風啦，整個枋山、枋寮，還有恆春那邊的荔枝、火龍果都酥花，沒有結果。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：對。 |
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蘇委員清泉：你們在災害認定的時候，我希望部長你們要從寬認定，1年搞1次…… |
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陳代理部長駿季：我瞭解，我跟委員報告…… |
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蘇委員清泉：都吃土了，你知道嗎？ |
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陳代理部長駿季：我知道。 |
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蘇委員清泉：他們都吃土，不是吃飯欸！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：我跟委員報告，因為我本身也是從事農業研究的，我知道我們恆春那邊，第一個我先說荔枝，荔枝在恆春的那部分，雖然說當時小犬颱風有稍微影響到，不過小犬颱風的認定期大概是3個月，我跟我的同仁研究，不一定要用小犬颱風，它還有很多因素…… |
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蘇委員清泉：對。 |
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陳代理部長駿季：特別是荔枝的生長會跟它的枝條成熟度、跟它的溫度有關，所以我們會來處理。 |
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蘇委員清泉：時間快到了、時間快到了。 |
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我要跟你說的就是，你們認定要放寬一點，不要讓他們血本無歸，這是第一個。第二個就是裡面那個規定，如果幾%、幾%、幾percent那個有不合時宜的，希望調整一下，專家會議改一改，那個都是辦法而已，那個不是法律，那個都是根據這些細則所訂出來的辦法，這樣好不好？ |
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陳代理部長駿季：我們的天然災害救助辦法是在滾動檢討的。 |
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蘇委員清泉：你們那個已經都過時了啦！ |
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陳代理部長駿季：所以剛剛說的荔枝部分不需要放寬，它就應該沒什麼問題，我們已經找到一些原因了。 |
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陳院長建仁：事證啦！ |
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蘇委員清泉：我再請王美花部長。 |
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主席：請經濟部備詢。 |
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蘇委員清泉：部長，我們恆春半島那邊我有去做民調，恆春半島的人有76%、77%是同意核三廠延役的，沒那麼嚴重！我在屏東住這麼久了，這個核三廠每一次評比在全世界都是前五名，我沒有記錯的話，三十年來也沒有什麼重大的毛病，這些百姓希望的是他們的醫療、他們的回饋等等能夠正好的保障，一個核三廠1年可以幫你賺三、四百億，你卻要關掉它，你不就是瘋子嗎？昨天美國聯邦希望把所有內陸那些火力石化電廠直接都改成核電廠，改成新的第四代的…… |
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王部長美花：昨天那個報導我後來再去看原文，它寫得不精準。 |
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蘇委員清泉：不精準？ |
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王部長美花：對，它講的是已經沒有在用的既有煤電廠未來可以思考用這個部分。 |
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蘇委員清泉：配電設備不用蓋，就直接輸送出去嘛！ |
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王部長美花：是。 |
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蘇委員清泉：院長，這個很重要。 |
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陳院長建仁：是。 |
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蘇委員清泉：現在COP也認為它是OK的嘛！所以不要……賴清德也有說可以當做備用啊，這表示什麼？ |
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陳院長建仁：現在核三若要延役，法律就要……這個你比我清楚。 |
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蘇委員清泉：我們有提修法，我們比你們還煩惱。 |
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陳院長建仁：好。 |
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主席：謝謝蘇委員清泉的質詢，謝謝陳院長的備詢。 |
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接下來登記第4號劉委員建國質詢以書面提出，請行政院書面答復，並列入紀錄，刊登公報。 |
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委員劉建國書面質詢： |
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農漁民子女助學金 |
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1.農漁民子女助學金實施已久，旨在幫助農漁民子女就學。但近來接獲不少陳情，私立大學由於今年發放教育補助，根據資源不重複投入原則，使就讀私大的農漁民子女無法再度請領農漁民子女助學金。 |
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2.但這樣等於變相剝奪農漁民子女的權益。所有就讀私大的農漁民子女變得與其他就讀私大的一般家庭處於齊頭式平等的狀態，而就讀公立大學的農漁民子女依舊可以請領助學金。這樣並非實質上的公平。 |
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3.甚至不只農漁民子女，可能本來就讀私大的學生可以請領其他助學金者都變得無法請領。 |
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建議： |
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請院長要求教育部與農業部及其他相關部會進行協調，私立大學補助直接內化，這樣一來對於學生本身便不會有資源重複投入的問題。相關報告請於一周內提交。 |
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公糧收購 |
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1.最近有一些民意代表，鑒於公糧收購價格久未調整，希望能來提高。 |
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2.當然農民權益不容忽視，但調高公糧收購價格茲事體大，可能會對我國農業外銷、我國農產品市場競爭力下滑、物價指數等等造成不利影響，是否有其他解決之道，能夠兼顧農民權益又不使我國經濟結構造成波動？未來有沒有甚麼相關的對策與方針？相關報告請於一周內提交。 |
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糧食自給率 |
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1.根據農業部統計資料，我國糧食自給率不論是乙熱量計算還是以價格計算，自107年以來，總體呈現逐年下滑趨勢。 |
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2.針對糧食自給率逐年下滑，究竟出現甚麼問題，導致這樣的原因？ |
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3.糧食自給率低的情況下，長期以來不僅不利我國農業發展，若是遇到國際緊急狀況如疫情、其他緊急事件等，將對我國造成嚴重影響。目前是否有相關應對方針？請一周內給予答覆。 |
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主席：再接下來我們請登記第5號張委員嘉郡質詢。 |
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施政質詢
對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢─ 繼續質詢─ |
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謝謝主席,我們請院長。麻煩再請陳院長備詢。主委午安,恭喜你當選立委。好幸運看到你在這裡。這個是新科的老兵。來,院長你現在要到520之前,那任期也可能會結束啦。我要請你講一講, |
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你對你的內閣的表現,你感覺如何?我感覺,我都沒有和你拼分手,但是我的內閣、我的同仁大家都很認真、很拼命。而且過去,你如果看我們的經濟成長也好,還是防疫的工作也好,還是農業的發展也好,委員你也很清楚,都有進步。所以我覺得,比較實施大家都在做福國利民的事情,我很感謝他們。這樣啦,今天你 |
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每天都報很多,我們經濟部剛才我們的部長有說,但是有缺的問題,再來農的問題,我們的數位部,我們唐鳳網路作戰的問題,還有我們農業部,我們屏東都是農業線,包括芭樂瓜,禁止使用,開放萊豬,還有一些是斑斑吃吃斑, |
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蘇清泉 |
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蘇清泉議員 |
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委員,你有沒有認同陳其中給你帶來很多很多的麻煩? |
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我想我們陳前部長本身在過去這7、8年來其實他做了非常多過去3、4、10年沒做的一些農業政策的一個改革。好,我現在開始講我們的屏東縣。我們屏東縣的我們全台灣的農業人口包括農業漁業加起來差不多80萬將近81萬。屏東縣就佔了38萬。 |
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所以農業、漁業、養殖等等對屏東縣來講是很重的,重中之重。我們的總統就是,現在總統就是我們屏東榜首的人。但是我不覺得你們照顧我們屏東的農機民,沒什麼在照顧的。 |
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蘇清泉 |
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來拓展其他的更多的外銷。我們那個韓院長他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他也很認真,他 |
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我跟全國議會前理事長黃一誠一起拚到死,包括水質管理履歷、QR code、藥檢等等,跟屏東科技大學密切一座來一座去。我要跟部長報告,對岸的海關總署 |
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現在最近有7家兩職業者通過,我們真的是輔導,非常用心的。 |
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現在量也出來了。 現在我們的珍珠班、我們的龍虎班本來一斤、一台斤都差不多一百塊、一百一塊、一百二塊,最近已經升到一百九、兩百。 |
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蘇清泉議員 |
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蘇清泉議員 |
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﹚蘇清泉 |
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我們有試銷到美國 |
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我對酒吧我是有夠用心的用心的用心,所以我是要在農業部我們的那個月數要高的 |
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當然會把這些加速把它擴增,我們最近有在...對,我們也一直在努力,對。希望議會主要好好的來幫忙啦。會,這一定會的。不要不幫忙,再這樣修理,修理,修理,這不行。 |
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委員我其實有兩部分,第一就是小台六的部分,我們怎樣來改善這事很重要,第二就是剛才說的,我們其實小國國的部分,你如果看外國市場,他們大部分都吃魚排、馬蜜蕾 |
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蘇清泉議員 |
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沿洋魚撈跟近海魚撈,占我們的總漁獲量差不多三成而已,差不多三成。我們的鄉網養殖跟岸上養殖跟內陸養殖占了70%左右,所以這個養殖對我們來講太重要,而且高頻尤其是屏東一定要加強輔導跟輔導,我希望院長跟部長你們要care這一塊。好,我們一定care,我們全力以赴啦。 |
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最近有一個我們萬巒還有內埔那邊的百香果我最近都在處理我很高興我們的農養署也有在幫忙就是一個雜誌社還有一個營養師用你們110年的data然後就發表 |
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什麼百祥國的農藥殘餘是最多的,無所怕到用110年,我要問部長,你有110年的data,啊111、112天都沒有? |
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我發言委員報告,就是說他們網路的報告是提80年至81年的資料。當然我們也是馬上去查記起的資料,因為百香果那是連續採收型的,平均的農藥的殘留率大概是10%,殘留大概10% |
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那我也知道說屏東因為我們百香果裡面齁全國大概面積差不多要一千九百三十九公頃雖然說屏東只佔百分之五齁差不多四十六公頃可是屏東的百香果非常特殊現在一百公頃以上啦對現在佔三成三成啦沒有到三成啦大概百分之五到百分之六我要跟你報告是院長我們額公衛人額邀的人我們都不希望屏東的那個賓郎 |
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蘇清泉轉租,屏東的屏東一般三千公斤左右,現在都在轉租,這樣百鄉國農委會、農業部要替他補助讓他做往事。往事根本都屢屢的,根本都在捕農業,你給他補貼的大家都死了,他收一千塊、現在剩四五百。 |
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發言委員：蘇清泉發言委員：蘇清泉發言委員 |
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﹚蘇清泉﹚ |
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他們是完全幾乎沒有用農藥,對不對部長? |
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他們有用一些有機資材,有部分的農藥,但是農藥一定都沒有在合格的範圍之內。所以我們檢測是委員會的。因為寒流啦,灘南風啦,整個邦山、邦寮,還有恆春那邊的荔枝、黃果都所廢,都沒有補給。你現在在災害認定的時候, |
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我希望部長,你們要從寬認定,一年搞一次。 我了解,我給委員報告。 都吃土你知道嗎?我自己都吃土,不是吃飯。 我給委員報告,因為我本身也是從事農業研究的。 我知道說,我們行政院的,第一我先說內資啦。 內資行政院的部分,雖然說它同時對小選台風有稍微影響到,不過小選台風的認定期大概3個月啦。 |
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我跟我們同仁研究,不一定要用小選颱風,它還有很多因素,對,特別是荔枝的生產會跟它的枝條的成熟度,跟它的溫度,所以我們會來處理。我們跟你說的就是說,你的認定要比較放寬。 |
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不要在那邊學本無歸,第一個。第二個,就是說你們那個規定,如果幾%、幾%、幾%那個有不合時宜的,希望調整一下,專家會議改一改,那個都是辦法而已,那個不是法律,那個都是根據這些細則所定出來的辦法。 |
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我們會天然災害救助辦法,我們是在滾動檢討的。所以他剛才說的,內地的保安不需要放寬,他就應該沒什麼問題。我們已經找到一些原因了。市政啦。我再請王美娃部長。請經濟部備詢。部長。謝謝。 |
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恆春半島的人報案是七十六、七十七,他們是同意河山長演議的,沒那麼嚴重,我在屏東住這麼久了,這個河山長每一次評比在全世界都是前五名的,我沒有記錯的話,三十年來也沒有什麼重大的毛病, |
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那這些百姓他們希望的是他們的醫療、他們的回饋等等能夠更好的保障。那這個河山長一年我們給你賺了三、四百億,你要給他賺掉嗎?你不笑嗎?美國現在將聯邦給黨所有的內陸的那些活力石化電廠,他們希望直接就改成河電廠。 |
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昨天那個報導我後來再去看原文,寫得不精準。對,他講的是說那個已經沒有再用的這個既有的那個煤電廠,未來可以來思考用這個部分。院長這個是很重要,那現在那個COPP也認為它是OK的嘛,所以不要,賴清德嘛 |
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謝謝蘇委員清泉的質詢。謝謝陳院長的備詢。接下來登記第4號,劉委員建國以質詢以書面提出。請行政院 |