| IVOD_ID |
149664 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/149664 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-36-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
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11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-11T10:43:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-11T10:54:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9ce5e25ef4cf43006cf5cc984565050daea18303c979697ef8ba9b0039caa7a6ef0ba9769f5742f75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:43:53 - 10:54:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請監察院秘書長列席說明立法計畫，並備質詢。） |
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謝委員龍介：（10時44分）感謝主席。請秘書長。 |
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主席：有請李秘書長。 |
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李秘書長俊俋：謝委員你好。 |
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謝委員龍介：你好，秘書長精神不錯。主席對你非常疼惜，主席說彼此都是憲法機關，所以你今天是以關係院的原因來這裡，就好像我們請總統來國情報告一樣，既不能問更不能碰，我相信你個人不會這樣。 |
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李秘書長俊俋：依照職權行使法規定。 |
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謝委員龍介：主席與貴黨同仁可以替你緩頰，不過我認為你個人不應該有這種心態…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：沒有。 |
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謝委員龍介：譬如我今天是以秘書長的身分來，我覺得這樣不好。為什麼呢？因為你會出錯，我之所以能體諒你是因為你剛就任半年…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：4個月。 |
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謝委員龍介：4個月，對不對？所以還不適應。剛才傅崐萁委員說憲法規定人民有旅行與遷徙的自由，對不對？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：對，沒有錯。 |
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謝委員龍介：沒錯吧？那就表示行政院違憲了？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：沒有啦！行政院違不違憲不是由立法院或監察院決定的。 |
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謝委員龍介：你聽我說。你不能這樣回答，你剛才說沒有…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：因為…… |
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謝委員龍介：你今天是監察院的秘書長，但現在你又變成李委員了…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：沒有、沒有，我是要向…… |
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謝委員龍介：對不對？我這樣評論的意思就是，譬如這是本院跟行政院的事情，主席以這個角度對你特別優待，結果本院委員評論行政院時，你卻這樣回答，這樣就不好了！這是我個人的見解。 |
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李秘書長俊俋：謝謝謝委員的指教。 |
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謝委員龍介：我能體諒你的是，過去你當委員是主張廢除監察院的…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：是，沒錯！ |
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謝委員龍介：我請教你，你是不是政治人物？你也算政治人物。政治人物必須一以貫之，要一輩子受檢驗，這點你我都一樣。今天你上到這位置，我很無奈也很不捨，大材小用啊！為什麼貴黨會做此安排，讓你這麼為難？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：我沒有這種感覺。 |
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謝委員龍介：你沒有這種感覺？你過去主張監察院廢掉，結果你今天當秘書長，坐上這位置領這份薪水，都不會覺得不好意思？或對監察院同仁覺得不好意思，因為以前說要廢掉，現在突然間來當你們的長官？依照人性…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：尚未修憲前，都必須依照憲法規定進行，這是我今天來的目的。 |
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謝委員龍介：你會覺得難堪嗎？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：不會。 |
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謝委員龍介：都不會？佩服，佩服！ |
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李秘書長俊俋：依照憲法的職權來行使。 |
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謝委員龍介：那我佩服你！由於我們簽署人權兩公約，所以4月份將進行廢除死刑的憲法法庭辯論，你們會派人參加嗎？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：國家人權委員會被司法院指定為鑑定機關。 |
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謝委員龍介：鑑定機關？你們有立場嗎？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：國家人權委員會有立場。 |
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謝委員龍介：有立場？你知道現在的立場大概是怎麼樣嗎？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：我們希望依照目標來達到廢除死刑，但如何做成則交由委員討論，這不是我可以決定的，這是我們的中程計畫。 |
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謝委員龍介：但目的就是要廢除就對了？目標，是目標，希望大家努力。 |
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李秘書長俊俋：社會有共識的話會比較容易，這是兩公約的條件。 |
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謝委員龍介：因為人權公約，所以民進黨全力主張廢除死刑…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：這不是民進黨主張的！ |
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謝委員龍介：就是民進黨的主張，沒錯啦！ |
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李秘書長俊俋：民進黨到現在怎麼主張，我不知道，因為我現在不涉入黨派…… |
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謝委員龍介：民進黨就是如此主張，只是不好意思做…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：現在不涉入黨派…… |
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謝委員龍介：由於民意反彈，所以現在就比較少說了…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：臺灣是兩公約的簽署國，所以臺灣會依照兩公約來做…… |
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謝委員龍介：如果這麼關心人權的話，為什麼中國大陸嫁過來的人要跟別的國家嫁來的人不一樣？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：使用的條文不一樣，適用的條文不一樣。 |
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謝委員龍介：一樣是關心人權，要公平待之，好不好？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：用的法律不同。 |
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謝委員龍介：你覺得貴院委員的組成需要更多元嗎？我說的是色彩，政黨色彩需要更多元嗎？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：現在已經很多元了，要更多元的話也可以。 |
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謝委員龍介：現在已經很多元了？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：是，我們裡面有醫師、律師，也有立委，都有。 |
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謝委員龍介：你才剛去4個月，我想你不是聽不懂。如果我講國語你可能會聽不懂，但我講臺語，你應該聽得懂啊！ |
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李秘書長俊俋：我聽得懂，所以我也回答得很清楚，現在監察院的組成以多元為目標…… |
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謝委員龍介：我是說政黨的政治色彩背景需要更多元嗎？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：我們裡面民進黨占少數。 |
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謝委員龍介：你不錯，很行，可以出國比賽！剛才因為你說不要用數字來討論監委的辦案，你們一年的預算差不多多少錢？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：差不多10億。 |
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謝委員龍介：10億左右嘛，辦案數究竟多或少，我跟你討論這個實在是沒意思，因為算起來你們等於每一個月調查不到一個案件啦！依照委員的比例來說。但是如果不要用案件調查數來看你們，我就來說一下實質的東西，譬如說食品安全這個東西，蘇丹紅也好，包括很重要，你們過去已經有去查的部分，但你們查一查，結果你們還認為監察這些管理食品安全的機關是不是有失能，我坦白跟你說，這不用去查嘛，這為何需要查，光看報紙也知道，對不對？去年12月11日食藥署就已經要求邊境，對於從中國大陸進口的這些辣椒粉，100%都要逐批審查，逐批逐批都要檢驗，結果依然是一大堆進口進來，這顯然就是有問題嘛！所以你們現在說要再繼續查這個，我認為沒有必要。 |
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比較重要的是，在你來監察院以前，2020年的7月，監察院用一年的時間去調查所謂食品雲的問題，也就是去調查食品雲的缺失，不知道你有沒有看過這個報告？你有沒有看過？請你的幕僚跟你說明一下，就是說，當初你們在調查時就已經發現很多缺失了，結果經過這一、二年來，尤其是現在又發生食品安全的問題，比如說我跟你說的，這是很「眉角」的嘛，你們過去就曾經調查過，而且發現有這些問題啊，結果這一、二年來，你們有去檢討整個食品雲的預測，包括它的預警，包括它有沒有什麼不妥當的地方？你們去調查過了喔，你們也把缺失寫出來了，結果現在又再發生這樣的情況，這樣花這麼多錢去建立一個雲端的系統有什麼用！我請教你，你的態度是怎麼樣？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：好，我跟謝委員報告，有關食品雲的部分，我們是在107年進行調查，現在持續追蹤當中，看它的成效跟後續的反映。有關食品安全彙報的部分是在110年查的，食安五環的部分是109年查的，蘇丹紅的部分並沒有…… |
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謝委員龍介：不是，我知道啦，但你們查完之後發現有這麼多缺失…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：現在才有。 |
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謝委員龍介：它有這麼多缺失，現在又查到爆出這麼嚴重問題的事件，你們過去那一年的調查就等於白費了嘛！ |
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李秘書長俊俋：所以我剛才有說明，我們還在持續追蹤當中，因為不是我們查完之後就算了，我們還要追蹤耶。 |
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謝委員龍介：我就是說你們沒追蹤嘛！今天如果有繼續追蹤…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：都有。 |
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謝委員龍介：有針對它的缺失給予指正，它就會產生遏止的效果，只要產生遏止的效果，今天這些業者就不會這麼「好膽」了！我請教你，海關退運之後，這些產品有可能不退運，只更改其中的文件，就再度進來嗎？我請教你！ |
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李秘書長俊俋：這是行政院的職權，我不方便說明。 |
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謝委員龍介：你們過去調查的案件有沒有這種情況？這樣說比較快啦。 |
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李秘書長俊俋：我跟謝委員報告，我剛剛已經唸給謝委員聽了…… |
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謝委員龍介：不是啦，你們過去調查的所有案件，包括食品、包括進口…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：我不清楚。 |
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謝委員龍介：你不清楚，列席人員裡面有人清楚嗎？ |
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李秘書長俊俋：我請他們說明一下。 |
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謝委員龍介：監察院辦這麼多案件，我請教你的目的就是這樣啊，所以你不能來備詢的時候都不給我們問啊！至少讓我們問一、兩件嘛！ |
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李秘書長俊俋：這個部分，有關食品雲…… |
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謝委員龍介：這樣好了，你提供書面給我啦。 |
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李秘書長俊俋：好，我提供書面給委員。 |
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謝委員龍介：因為這牽涉到這一次的食安風暴，你應該知道嘛，有人出去以後…… |
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李秘書長俊俋：是，蘇丹紅的部分現在已經在調查了，這個部分我會提供書面給謝委員。 |
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謝委員龍介：好，秘書長，祝福你！ |
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李秘書長俊俋：謝謝。好 |
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主席：謝謝謝委員，也謝謝李秘書長。接下來由翁委員曉玲發言。 |
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鍾佳濱 |
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感謝主席感謝主席齁這次都接待了歡迎我們第一天的議會都可以加卡登了歡迎一下那個請秘書長齁 |
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邀請李秘書長主席對你非常地疼愛主席說因為都是白白現化的機關所以你今天是以關系於來這裡 |
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我今天是用秘書長的身份來 |
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我覺得這樣不好 為什麼呢 因為你會脫財 我可以體諒你就是因為你拿來報擔嘛 四個位 四個位嘛 對不對所以還不適應啊 譬如說剛才布魂基委員在說 憲法簽署規定人民有流行及承受的自由 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 對不對 就是說 就是說 如果這樣就是表示行政委員喔 |
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你今天是監察院的秘書長你又變成立委員了你對不對沒有啦主席我現在這樣評論就是說 |
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本意及行政委員會主席就是用這個角度．對你特別優待．結果本意的委員在評論．行政委員時．你出來應援 這樣就不好了我個人的見解啦好 謝謝小委員的指教阿不然 譬如說 我提供你就是說過去你做委員的時候你主張會讀及參議嘛 |
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在這樣的情況下,我請教你是不是政治人物?你也算政治人物,政治人物就是一理貫治,要一事人分檢驗啊。你我都一樣啊。所以今天你來到這個位置,我也很無奈,我也很不敢啊。大宰相擁啊,想要整棟的做這個安排,讓你這麼為難。 |
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我沒有這個感覺你過去要把監察院廢掉呢?你今天來這裡做秘書長 你在這裡坐這個位子這個薪水你都不覺得抱歉抱歉 監察院這裡的董事說 抱歉啊 以前我說要把你們廢掉 現在鄉鄉來做你們的董事 |
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在我們的臨時﹖在我們的臨時﹖在我們的臨時﹖在我們的臨時﹖在我們的臨時﹖在我們的臨時﹖在我們的臨時﹖在我們的臨時﹖ |
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國家人權委員會被司法院指定為鑑定機關國家人權委員會有立場嗎?我們希望依照目標來達到廢死死刑的目標但是如何的做成這個由委員來討論這不是我可以決定 |
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這個不是民進黨主張的民進黨的主張啦 沒不對啦 |
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民進黨到現在怎麼主張我不知道 因為現在我不涉及黨派現在不涉及黨派阿現在民意寬大阿現在就沒什麼要說阿東郵東一顆星阿如果這麼關心人權為什麼中國大陸嫁來的人要跟法律國家嫁來的人不一樣適用的條文不一樣對不對 不然如果是關心人權阿我們就要公平的態勢 |
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你覺得幾年的這個委員的成分啊齁 組織啊 有需要再加多完嗎 |
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主席主席 |
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監察院的組成以多元為目標 監察院的組成以多元為目標 監察院的組成以多元為目標 監察院的組成以多元為目標 監察院的組成以多元為目標 監察院的組成以多元為目標 監察院的組成以多元為目標 監察院的組成以多元為目標 |
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辦案這個我和你討論這個實在沒意思因為辦起來這個位你們調查沒到一個案件委員的那個比率但是不要說用案件調查來給你看我來說事實啦譬如說食品安全這個東西蘇丹鴻也好包括很重要你們過去已經有去查的喔你查查的結果你還在 |
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認為說 監察這個 管理食品安全的機關是不是有失靈我坦白跟你說 這不用去查嘛這比較有差 剛剛看報紙也知道對嗎 今年12月11日 那個食油署就已經要求 邊境對中國大陸 身靠的這個 |
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發言委員：謝龍介說明立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第1屆第2會期司法及法制委員會 |
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監察院用一段時間去調查所謂的食品雲 食品雲呢 會缺失就對了你不知道我看過這個報告嗎 你覺得 如果你給我說明一下就是說你們當機時 調查就有很多個角色 |
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那麼經過這兩天來 尤其現在又有問題發生食品安全的問題例如我告訴你這是很危險嘛 你過去就調查 有這些問題啊 結果這兩天來 你有去檢討整個食品營的預測 包括它的預警 包括它還有什麼不正確的地方 你去調查過了喔 |
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我請教你,你的態度是如何?因為食品運營的部分我們已經一百多千年調查,現在持續追蹤當中,看它的成效及後續的反應有關食品安全匯報的部分是在110年查的,食品食安五環的部分是109年查的 |
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你查了他有這麼多缺失他有這麼多缺失 啊現在查了這麼大的事情出來這樣你過去那一天的調查就被你白費了嘛 |
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所以我剛才有說明我們還在持續追蹤當中因為不是我們查了就算了我們還追蹤我就是說你們沒有追蹤嘛今天如果繼續有追蹤有針對他的課程有跟他知情他就會三成有格好過有有格好過今天你這麼嚇唬就不太好我請教你啦海關退運了後這個三品有可能沒有退運 |
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我請教你你過去調查的案件有這樣嗎 這樣說快點不是啦 你過去調查的所有發掘食品包括進口我沒有清澈你沒有清澈 那裡面的人有清澈嗎 |
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秘書長很理智 |
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好謝謝 |