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149519 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/149519 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-36-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
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司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-07T10:59:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-07T11:12:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:35 |
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gazette |
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| 委員名稱 |
傅崐萁 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:48 - 11:12:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請法務部部長率所屬單位主管列席報告業務概況及立法計畫，並備質詢。） |
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傅委員崐萁：（10時59分）部長早。 |
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蔡部長清祥：總召好。 |
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傅委員崐萁：現在是打詐、打詐，越打越詐！已經從102年的1萬8,000件到去年的3萬7,900件，財務損失也從102年的37億到去年的88.79億，被害人數從102年的2萬4,000人到去年的5萬9,000人，難道法務部對打詐都拿不出相關的辦法來嗎？ |
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蔡部長清祥：跟委員說明，在法務部的職掌範圍內，我們也提出了相關法律的修正，在執行面上，我們也要求檢警調大家要全力以赴，來做一個有效的打擊還有偵辦。 |
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傅委員崐萁：這樣啦！對於提高刑度的部分，是不是法務部可以直接提出來？ |
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蔡部長清祥：刑度的提高還有構成要件的更嚴謹，各種新型態的詐騙，我們都有提出修法的建議。 |
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傅委員崐萁：因為不能老是說這個是車手，對車手就從輕，其實為什麼當一個車手就有這麼高的所得，他難道沒有一點基本常識嗎？對不對？所以基本上這就是共犯之一。這個部分可能也要跟司法院溝通一下，因為對車手一切從輕，所以現在外役監幾乎都是詐騙團，詐騙團現在都在外役監，而害臺灣害得最慘的就是這群人！不說一般百姓，光我就接過不曉得多少次的詐騙電話，我接過很多次，所以法務部應該拿出辦法，去跟NCC及所有這些單位，大家一起商討出一個應對的辦法，不然我們一天到晚接到詐騙電話，這真的很奇怪。所以部長不要越打越詐，該加重刑度就加重刑度，讓這個問題至少趨勢是下降的，不要每年逐步都在上升，我們喊打詐喊了多少年！所以這個東西請部長多留意，好不好？ |
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蔡部長清祥：好，謝謝。 |
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傅委員崐萁：另外，我要特別請教一下，昨天臺南又出現一個天坑，在臺南中西區的五妃街，這個建設公司叫皇龍建設，也是賴清德總統當選人跟黃偉哲市長競選總部的提供者。對昨天發生的這個天坑，是不是比照一下新竹縣？貴部約談楊文科縣長還要交保，而且是重金交保，法務部是不是要硬起來給大家看一下，一樣是天坑事件，辦的方法有沒有不一樣，可以嗎？ |
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蔡部長清祥：跟委員說明，因為每一個案件它的事實內容如何是不一樣…… |
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傅委員崐萁：那就趕快啟動嘛！不要跟我講個案不同，好不好？ |
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蔡部長清祥：如果有涉及刑事責任的話，當然檢察官他們會依法處理。 |
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傅委員崐萁：你既然講到刑事責任，那麼一樣的事情，我再請教一下，臺南市經發局陳凱凌前局長是貪污的累犯、慣犯，為什麼法務部在2022年九合一大選前，有人在臺南市當街開了88槍，88槍開完以後，又開了10槍，10槍開完，又再一個當街槍擊爆頭身亡，全國矚目這麼重大的事情！而這個陳凱凌局長本身就是貪污的累犯、慣犯，去年3月6號搜索完約談員工，員工已經講得很清楚、科員講得很清楚，陳凱凌說是上級指示的，在資料不齊備的情況之下，還要為這個光電業者來申辦。為什麼去年3月6號就搜索約談，卻要到今年的2月29號才約談黃偉哲市長，這是很奇怪的事情。這在藍營的縣市，科員講完後，隔天就搜索約談了，為什麼可以躲過這麼長的總統大選期間，隔了將近一年才來約談？部長是不是能告訴我一下？ |
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蔡部長清祥：因為每一個案件，它的案情不同…… |
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傅委員崐萁：不要再講每一個案件了…… |
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蔡部長清祥：我沒辦法…… |
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傅委員崐萁：這科員就已經講得很清楚了嘛…… |
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蔡部長清祥：案件也不是我在處理的嘛！ |
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傅委員崐萁：當然不是你在處理，也不是我在處理嘛！ |
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蔡部長清祥：是。 |
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傅委員崐萁：但司法要讓人家信服，對不對？為什麼山水民調做出來的民調，有85%的人不相信檢察官，這個資料我發給你，你可以瞭解一下。這是創新高啊！有85%的人不相信！ |
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蔡部長清祥：沒有啦！沒有那麼多啦！ |
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傅委員崐萁：山水民調做的調查，你可以google一下，自己看完，下一次我再請教部長，好不好？為什麼科員都已經公開講陳凱凌局長告訴他是上級指示，局長的上級是誰？秘書長、副市長、市長？一個科員講的話，再加上他面對的這個東西，明明就是資料不全，不能辦的，為什麼可以承辦？而且又是光電案，這麼敏感的事情！然後經過將近一年才約談他的市長。局長說是上級指示，那麼上級在哪裡？這如果在藍營的縣市，我看可能隔天就約談，不認的話，就押人取供了。 |
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所以，司法要如何讓人信服，這是非常重要的事情，這是皇后的貞操，現在還有人記得這句話嗎？皇后的貞操是怎麼樣？值多少錢？是值多少代價就可以交易的嗎？還是值多少官位就可以交易的嗎？你們應該秉公辦到底嘛！為什麼在新竹市，高虹安的事情選前就如火如荼？為什麼在臺南市發生這麼嚴重全國矚目的事情，科員也公開講了，局長告訴他上級指示，卻可以延宕一年才來約談？部長，我們要將心比心，司法是我們社會正義防線的最後一道底線，如果司法都不能正義，還談什麼國家正義？司法沒有正義，何有社會的互信？山水民調也是比較親綠的，你可以google一下，看一下它公布出來的數據，這是台灣公民聯盟請他們去做的民調。部長是在位最久的法務部長，當然我也預祝你能夠連任是最好，但這個部分至少要讓大家瞭解，85%什麼時候可以降下來？臺灣人民有85%的人認為政治辦案對檢察官有巨大影響，所以這個東西要怎麼樣把它降下來，請部長的腰桿要挺直，千萬不要有顏色辦案。 |
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另外，本席再請教一個問題，今天你能回答就回答，不然就下一次回答。有關言論免責的部分，雖然有大法官第509號解釋，但是現在不管是網軍側翼或特定顏色的媒體，還有一般民眾，我們可以區分得出來，他就是網軍，法務部不能永遠都講因為他的IP設在國外，然後就沒有辦法。現在網軍已經起起都在國外，天天在帶風向、在洗腦、在做人身攻擊，法務部的辦法到底是什麼？能做什麼？不能永遠兩手一攤，說IP在國外，所以沒有辦法查。 |
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再來，特定政治立場、側翼媒體，鏡電視的事情，本席在去年7月19日已經質詢過了，NCC有條件通過鏡電視的時候，已經很清楚在去年2月28日有條件通過它上架，大股東、原始股東在6年之內不得移轉。陳建平已經出來講了這麼多次，本席在去年院會質詢也請教過部長，裴偉的帳號公然匯錢給這些股東，陳耀祥也是貪污被告，你們還在用他字案，「他」到現在多久了，你們到底是辦還是不辨？一個媒體公器，一張執照價值連城，它關係到所有全國的閱聽人，但你們辦到哪裡去了？陳耀祥都要下臺了，你們辦到哪裡去了？有像辦高虹安案這麼快嗎？你們的理由是什麼？這關係到2,300萬閱聽人知的權利啊！鏡電視可以用這種態度？他的大股東早就已經移轉了。本席也告訴你，檢舉人已經具名告訴，就是在裴偉的帳號已經把錢匯給這些原始股東，查到現在查了多久了？你們清楚的去查一下，這不是個案，是重大的公共議題。本席去年請教到現在，部長，你辦一次給大家看一下嘛，好不好？我們熱烈期待你，可以回答嗎？ |
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蔡部長清祥：委員的指教，我都很仔細的聆聽，我們能夠做的，我一定會盡力的趕快把它完成。 |
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傅委員崐萁：部長，你就最大了，什麼叫作你能夠做？你當然可以做，對不對？社會矚目的案件可以不用辦嗎？ |
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蔡部長清祥：我還是有我職權上的限制。 |
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傅委員崐萁：社會矚目的案件，本來就是要立刻來處理，部長這個時候不能卸責，你是法務界的大家長，對於全國矚目的案子能夠不處理嗎？光查一個資金流程要查2年、3年、5年嗎？部長，這個事情請儘快將真相讓全國國人能夠瞭解，可以嗎？ |
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蔡部長清祥：謝謝指教。 |
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傅委員崐萁：去年你也是跟我講謝謝指教，但我不曉得我們要指教到什麼時候，請給大家一個真相，讓全國國人能夠瞭解。謝謝部長。 |
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主席：謝謝。我們現在開始處理臨時提案1案。宣讀後再進行處理，請宣讀。 |
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近年來檢察機關新收案數量不斷攀升，特別是暴增的詐騙案件，使原本就人力不足的檢察體系雪上加霜。基層檢察官團體大聲疾呼，許多檢察官每月新收案件數量破百，巨量案件使檢察體系偵辦案件的能量瀕臨癱瘓，籲請法務部體恤基層儘速增補人力。 |
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此外，檢察機關人力結構設計不良，工作負擔落差巨大，再加上檢察官人力與輔佐辦案其他人員的人力數不成比例，亟待從結構面重新檢討、有效改革。 |
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為強化犯罪偵查效能，同時避免基層人力過勞，建請法務部針對檢察官、檢察事務官、書記官、檢察官助理、法警之人力配置、職掌分工與工作負擔，進行全面檢討評估，並針對增加各類員額之必要性與具體規畫期程、人力如何重新調整配置等關鍵問題，提出完整檢討規劃報告，於一個月內送交司法及法制委員會。 |
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提案人：黃國昌 傅崐萁 謝龍介 吳宗憲 羅智強 林思銘 翁曉玲 |
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主席：請問提案委員有無補充說明？黃委員要補充說明嗎？ |
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黃委員國昌：我覺得這個事情已經談滿久了，相關提案委員還有社會上面最近這段時間的討論，基層檢察官團體也發聲，他們現在面臨的辦案壓力，我們不能要馬兒跑又要馬兒不吃草，因此針對相關合理的提案，包括法律的修正，我們基本上都支持。 |
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但問題是，在面對有關的人力需求時，請重新針對目前的人力狀況好好盤整，是不是有勞逸不均的情形，其他的輔助人員是不是有必要一併在什麼樣的程度範圍內增加？我相信行政部門會負責任的去盤點現在的狀況，提出你們的需求。因為在司法院的立法計畫裡面，已很具體的在法院組織法要增加檢察官助理，禮拜一的時候，在他們的立法計畫報告中都已經寫出來了。至於其他辦案輔助人力的部分，現在面臨的狀況到底如何，請法務部能夠一併的盤整。 |
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主席：請問法務部照案辦理有沒有意見？ |
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蔡部長清祥：謝謝各位委員的關心，人力的需求，我們確實需要及早補充；不過要做一個全盤的盤整，請給我們多一點時間來做評估，因為一個月的時間，包括要對各種人力的職掌，還有人員的需求如何等等，是不是再長一點的時間來做規劃？ |
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黃委員國昌：我們從善如流，就延到兩個月好不好？當然我也要尊重其他提案委員，包括主席在內的想法。 |
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主席：我是沒意見。請問總召，本件如果延到兩個月，有無意見？ |
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傅委員崐萁：法務部提出，我們敬表同意。 |
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主席：請問法務部，如果改為兩個月，有沒有問題？ |
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蔡部長清祥：好，可以接受。 |
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主席：沒有問題的話，本件就照修正後通過。 |
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接下來要麻煩翁曉玲委員代理主席。 |
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主席（翁委員曉玲代）：接下來請吳召集委員宗憲進行詢答。 |
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吳宗憲 |
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黃國昌 |
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謝龍介 |
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陳俊宇 |
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鍾佳濱 |
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莊瑞雄 |
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林思銘 |
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吳思瑤 |
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翁曉玲 |
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傅崐萁 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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王世堅 |
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黃珊珊 |
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沈發惠 |
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羅智強 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請法務部部長率所屬單位主管列席報告業務概況及立法計畫，並備質詢 |
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請詢答部長早總總好這個現在打炸打炸越打越炸現在已經從102年的18000件到去年的37900件也從102年的損失財務37億到去年的88.79億 |
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被害人數從一百零二年的兩萬四千人到去年的五萬九千人這個打仗的法務部都拿不出相關的辦法來嘛 |
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跟委員說明在法務部的執掌範圍內我們也提出了相關的法律的修正那在執行面我們也要求檢警調大家也要全力以赴來做一個有效的打擊還有偵辦這樣子啦對提高刑度的部分是不是法務部可以直接提出來好不好 |
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行動的提高還有構成要件的更嚴謹各種新的形態的詐騙我們都有提出修法的建議說車手車手然後就重新其實為什麼可以去當一個車手就這麼高的所得他難道沒有一點基本常識嗎對不對所以基本上這就是共犯之義 |
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所以這個部分可能也要跟司法院也要溝通一下因為車手一切重慶現在幾乎外衣間現在都是詐騙團詐騙團現在都在外衣間而害台灣害得最慘的就是這群人一般的百姓光我就接過不曉得多少次的詐騙電話我接過很多次 |
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所以我們其實法務部應該拿出辦法來去跟NCC去跟所有這些單位大家一起來商討一個應對的一個辦法不然我們電話一天到晚接到詐騙電話這很奇怪啊所以部長不要越打越詐 |
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昨天臺南又出現天坑 |
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台南中西區的武飛街出現一個天坑那這個建設公司叫黃龍建設也是賴清德總統當選跟黃偉哲市長競選總部的提供者在昨天發生這個天坑是不是比照一下新竹縣這個貴部約談這個陽文科縣長還要交保重金交保是不是 |
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法務部阿要印起來一下給大家看一下一樣是天坑辦的方法有沒有不一樣可以嗎呃跟我的說明因為每一個案件阿他的事實內容如何阿是那就趕快啟動嘛對不要跟我講個案不同阿好不好如果有涉及到刑事責任的話好不好當然檢察官他不會依法處理好那你既然講刑事責任好那一樣的事情那我再請教一下台南市 |
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經發局陳凱玲局長前局長是貪污的累犯慣犯為什麼法務部在2022年啊這個大選前九一大選前啊這個台南88槍啊開完以後啊還有這個當街啊88槍開完以後10槍10槍開完在一個暴頭暴頭啊 |
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當天槍擊身亡這麼全國矚目這麼重大的事情這個陳海靈局長本身就是貪污的累犯慣犯竟然在去年3月6號在搜索完樂壇員工員工已經講得很清楚科研講得很清楚陳海靈說是上級指示的在資料不齊備的情況之下還要為這個光電業者來辦 |
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為什麼3月6號就搜索約談要到今年的2月29號才約談黃偉哲市長這很奇怪的事情這在蘭嶼的縣市科研講完隔天就搜索約談為什麼可以躲過這麼長的總統大選期間隔了將近一年才約談部長是不是能告訴我一下 |
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因為每一個案件他的案情不要再講每一個案件了我沒辦法這科研究你講很清楚了嘛案件也不是我在處理的嘛當然不是你在處理也不是我在處理嘛但司法要讓人家信服嘛對不對為什麼山水民調做出來檢察官85%的人不相信檢察官那資料我發給你了解一下好不好 |
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這是創新高啊85%的人不相信沒有啦山水民調做的沒有啦山水民調做的你可以google一下自己看完然後下一次我再請教部長好不好就是說為什麼一個科員已經公開講陳凱琳局長告訴他是上級指示一個局長的上級是誰秘書長副市長市長是誰 |
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一個科研他講的話再加上他上面明明這個東西就是資料不全不能辦的為什麼可以承辦又是光電案這麼敏感的事情然後經過將近一年才約談到的市長局長說上級此事那上級在哪裡這在藍營的縣市我看啦可能隔天就隔天就約談不認的話就押人取供了 |
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所以啊我覺得部長司法要如何讓人信服這是非常重要的事情這是皇后的徵鈔欸現在還有人記得這句話嗎皇后的徵鈔是怎麼樣是值多少錢是值多少代價就可以交易的嗎還是值多少官位就可以交易的嗎你們應該秉公辦到底嘛 |
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為什麼高安的事情是選前如火如荼在新竹市為什麼台南市發生這麼嚴重的全國矚目的事情柯昱宇也公開的講局長告訴他上級指示然後可以延宕一年才來約談我覺得部長我們要將心比心 |
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司法是我們社會正義防線的最後一道底線如果司法都不能正義那談什麼國家正義司法沒有正義何有社會的互信山水民調也是比較親綠的嘛你可以看看嘛你google一下可以看一下他公佈出來的是台灣公民聯盟請他去做的民調 |
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所以我覺得這個東西啊真的是部長您是在位最久的法務部長這個部分當然我也是預祝你能夠連任是最好但是這個部分至少要讓大家了解85%什麼時候可以降下來台灣人民認為政治辦案對檢察官有巨大影響85%的人認為是這樣 |
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對言論免責的部分貴然有大法官509號解釋令 |
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但是現在不管是網軍、側翼、特定顏色的媒體還有一般民眾我們可以都區分得出來他就是網軍不能永遠法務部就講他IP設在國外然後就沒有辦法現在網軍已經集體都在國外天天在帶風箱、在洗腦、在做人身攻擊法務部的辦法到底是什麼 |
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能做什麼不能永遠兩手一攤IP在國外我們沒有辦法查再過來特定政治立場徹議媒體進電視的事情本期在去年7月19號已經質詢過了NCC有條件通過進電視的時候因為清楚在去年2月28號有條件通過它上架 |
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大股東6年之內不得移轉陳建平已經出來講了這麼多次本席在去年院會質詢也請教過部長培偉的帳號公然揮錢給這些股東陳耀祥也是財務被告你們還在用他治案他到現在多久了到底你們是辦還是不辦 |
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一個媒體公器一張執照價值連城這是關係到所有全國的聽樂人但你們辦到哪裡去了陳曉祥都要下台了你們辦到哪裡去了有像辦告報案這麼快嗎因為理由是什麼這關係到2300萬聽樂人的 |
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資的權利啊今天是可以用這種態度他說大股東已經移轉了早就移轉了本席也告訴你檢舉人已經具名告訴就是在培委的帳號把錢匯給這些原始股東查到現在查了多久了這麼清楚去查一下這是重大的公共議題這不是一個個案是重大的公共議題 |
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本期去年請教到現在部長你辦一次給大家看一下嘛好不好我們熱烈期待你可以回答嗎委員的指教我都很仔細的聆聽啦我們能夠做的我一定會盡力的趕快部長你就最大了怎麼叫你能夠做你當然可以做 |
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社會矚目案件可以不用辦嗎社會矚目案件本來就是要立刻來處理部長這個時候你不能卸責你是法務界的大家長全國矚目的案子能夠不處理嗎不能說查光查一個資金流程要查兩年三年五年嗎所以部長這個事情請儘快 |
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請給大家一個真相讓全國國人能夠了解 |