| IVOD_ID |
149334 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/149334 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-06T09:38:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-06T09:47:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/aa454a369d2b172f153c47ff6a56e9978e47b20f39b04ac8f8ba9b0039caa7a64a7ded5c40f3c2c55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:38:28 - 09:47:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【3月4日、3月6日及7日三天一次會】） |
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張委員啓楷：（9時38分）謝謝召委，請龔主委。 |
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主席：我們再請龔主委。 |
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龔主任委員明鑫：張委員早安。 |
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張委員啓楷：龔主委早安。我們現在要來講小朋友的安全，小朋友在中興新村的遊樂園裡面撞破了頭，頭破血流，縫了5針，這個案子已經發生一個多月了，從1月14日到現在已經快2個月了，你們有沒有負責？賠償了嗎？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：有啦，已經有了。 |
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吳參事文貴：2月份已經協助理賠了。 |
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張委員啓楷：我昨天問他們，家長說公共意外責任險到現在還沒有賠喔。 |
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吳參事文貴：跟委員報告一下，因為他2月20幾號才把相關的醫療…… |
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張委員啓楷：1月14日發生，1月15日就去關心了，為什麼…… |
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吳參事文貴：我們都有跟江姓家長溝通，我們每個禮拜去瞭解他的狀況，然後他在2月底才把相關的單據送給我們，現在我們已經批…… |
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張委員啓楷：儘快好不好？ |
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吳參事文貴：好，OK。 |
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張委員啓楷：這個速度要加快，我每天都會追喔！ |
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吳參事文貴：是。 |
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張委員啓楷：接下來我們看一下，除了小朋友賠償的問題要加快之外，安全問題更重要，要給家長跟小朋友一個安心、安全的遊樂地方，這個地方不能再出狀況。 |
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吳參事文貴：是。 |
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張委員啓楷：昨天我還請專家特別又到現場去勘查了一次，你們本來說一個月內要完成檢驗，對不對？為什麼我昨天去看，來，主委你先看一下，這個盪鞦韆是你們管的喔！這個鞦韆安全嗎？下面是現在的，請看這個圖，右邊的鞦韆是你們現在的…… |
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龔主任委員明鑫：報告委員…… |
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張委員啓楷：兒童樂園，你看一下，安不安全？右邊這個。 |
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龔主任委員明鑫：不是，照理說我們應該已經把它封起來了，就是外面有…… |
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張委員啓楷：沒有啊！昨天去還有人在那裡玩啊！哪有封起來？ |
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吳參事文貴：跟委員報告一下，因為這邊的兒童遊具是很多人和兒童的記憶啦！發生的那時候，我們有把它圍起來，有可能因為有些家長又想要給小朋友玩，這個部分我們可能沒有督促到那麼嚴謹。 |
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張委員啓楷：這個問題蠻嚴重的，主委，你一定要重視喔！ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：是，我知道。 |
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張委員啓楷：依照兒童遊戲場設施安全管理規範，安全檢查是每三年要檢驗一次。 |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對。 |
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張委員啓楷：你們之前已經沒有做了，這已經是有問題的啊！對不對？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對，的確是疏忽。 |
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張委員啓楷：發生問題，對不對？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：所以我們現在就是…… |
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張委員啓楷：你不是說一個月要把它檢查完後要做好，對不對？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對。 |
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張委員啓楷：因為我今天要質詢，所以我昨天還請人去實地勘查，至少發現兩個地方還有問題，第一個是我剛才說的鞦韆，昨天也是有小孩在那邊玩啊！尤其星期六、日人都很多喔！這個地方是小朋友常去的地方。你看右邊這個，為什麼不安全？這個是很清楚的，鞦韆一定是要軟的嘛！對不對？坐的那個坐墊要軟的，對不對？而且依照規定，一定是要有弧度的，現場有很多是爸爸、媽媽、阿公、阿嬤帶小朋友去公園玩的，你會讓他坐右邊這個嗎？那個是硬的耶！上面是鐵，下面是木板耶！若是兩個小孩上去，或是剛好有小孩在後面被鞦韆撞到，那是多嚴重的問題。 |
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龔主任委員明鑫：是，報告委員…… |
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張委員啓楷：這個馬上處理，好不好？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對。 |
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張委員啓楷：這個不能再延誤喔！ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：因為我們現在決定重新把它整理，但是重新整理、整修或是重新規劃，因為這個是屬於全區的文化景觀，我們要送縣政府的文資委員會，他們同意以後我們才可以動，我們會儘快。 |
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張委員啓楷：要趕快啦！不要再發生事情了，好不好？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：好，儘快。 |
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張委員啓楷：主委，不要再發生了，讓家長跟小朋友有一個安全的遊樂地方，絕對不要再出狀況了。 |
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龔主任委員明鑫：好。 |
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張委員啓楷：來看第二個圖，這個也是現在沒有封起來的，這個叫搖搖馬，大家看一下這個圖，左邊它是這樣壓嘛！對不對？你看它下面彈簧的地方，有沒有危險？主委，你看有危險嗎？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：所以我們會儘快的…… |
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張委員啓楷：至少外面要做一個防護啊！對不對？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對，先把它封起來啦！ |
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張委員啓楷：OK，這馬上去做，好不好？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對。 |
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張委員啓楷：另外，給我一個東西，你說你有找合法的廠商去做檢測，對不對？找哪一家，它的檢測報告是什麼？你等一下送來我辦公室，好不好？OK，好。 |
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我們看下一個，好啦！這個今天就不問你了，反正你花了很多心思，我知道你要讓中興新村重現光芒嘛！我剛剛看你今天的報告裡面有很多，一定要做到。主委，我會找一天邀你去中興新村走一趟。 |
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龔主任委員明鑫：歡迎。 |
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張委員啓楷：今天很多人可能都是從中興新村來的，那邊以前是我們的政治中心，包括我們的主席，以前做省議員都在那，有我們很美好的回憶啦！所以讓它光華再現，好不好？讓南投人、讓中興新村的人光華再現，有那個驕傲感。其次，小朋友玩的地方要馬上改，好不好？ |
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第二個也很重要，我看你今天報告的第四頁，提到電價調控要有三原則，對不對？主委，我唸給你聽，你不用找了啦！你提到照顧民生、穩定物價及節約能源，現在電價要漲了，你怎麼照顧民生、怎麼穩定物價？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：這是原則，但是實際的作法可能要由經濟部跟其審議委員會做最後的決定。 |
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張委員啓楷：是經濟部打臉你嗎？經濟部打臉國發會嗎？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：不會啦！他們還是會用這個三原則來規劃啦！ |
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張委員啓楷：你看這個對照表，有沒有一點諷刺啊？你看一下、你看一下，右邊是4月份經濟部準備這樣做的…… |
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龔主任委員明鑫：這個應該是還沒有確定吧！ |
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張委員啓楷：民生用電1,000度以上的要調10%，300度以下的要調5%，你怎麼照顧民生、怎麼穩定物價？你是很有名的經濟學者耶！主委，這樣調下去，物價會上漲嗎？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：報告委員，這個…… |
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張委員啓楷：主委，你是很有名的經濟學者喔！你現在又是國發會的主委，這樣調，物價會不會再上漲？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：我同意啦！就是電價上漲當然對物價會有影響，也因為這樣子，所以過去一、兩年我們為什麼一定要平穩電價。 |
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張委員啓楷：對啊！不要說一、兩年，前面20年漲的都是其他，300度以下民生都沒有漲啊！為什麼這個要漲？第一，選舉結束了，是不是？第二，現在物價飆漲那麼高，主計總處不是剛公布嗎？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對，1.85。 |
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張委員啓楷：去年就是因為物價上漲太高啊！我們實質總薪資倒退11年來最高啊！這怎麼會是一個漲電價的好時間呢？特別是民生用電，為什麼300度以下也可以漲呢？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：報告委員，這個可能…… |
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張委員啓楷：你可以去跟他們講一下嗎？國發會主委龔明鑫能不能去跟經濟部長或行政院長講？我做一個建議，我知道蔡總統常常徵詢你的意見嘛！你跟蔡總統講民生用電不能漲，可以嗎？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：報告委員，因為明天召委就有排一個專案報告，是不是讓經濟部先說明以後…… |
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張委員啓楷：你要我明天去問他？當然，明天我會問他啊！問題你是負責國家整體發展的人啊！又是那麼有名的學者啊！而且它打臉了你，你沒有看到嗎？你這樣有照顧民生、有穩定物價嗎？我明天也要拿這個東西去問王美花，是不是在打臉你？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：這個還是要看它的方案啦！ |
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張委員啓楷：沒有啦！你要站在國家的發展啊！站在穩定物價跟照顧民生啊！ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：對，那個是重要的原則，沒有錯。 |
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張委員啓楷：我直接問好了，現在在傳你要做經濟部長，會不會是經濟部長龔明鑫以後打臉現在的國發會主委龔明鑫？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：沒有…… |
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張委員啓楷：到時候你當了經濟部長，我拿這個去問你，你如果守不住民生用電不要漲，你是不是打臉自己？去啦！去跟總統講一下，好不好？民生用電不要漲，300度以下絕對不要漲，好不好？謝謝主委。 |
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龔主任委員明鑫：謝謝。 |
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主席：主委，我還是要提醒，因為委員在詢答的時候，還是要針對委員的提問，因為今天我們的書面資料都是由國發會所提出的，所以你應該是要以你所提出的政策方向去做詢答，而不是明天召委排了什麼議程，請經濟部去看什麼方案，這樣子本席沒有辦法接受，要尊重我們每一位委員的詢答，好不好？ |
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龔主任委員明鑫：好，謝謝。 |
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主席：下不為例。 |
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接下來我們請謝衣鳯委員詢答。 |
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186 |
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委員會-11-1-19-2 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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邱議瑩 |
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陳亭妃 |
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林岱樺 |
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張啓楷 |
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謝衣鳯 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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張嘉郡 |
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呂玉玲 |
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鄭正鈐 |
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陳超明 |
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賴瑞隆 |
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莊瑞雄 |
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賴士葆 |
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鍾佳濱 |
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洪孟楷 |
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蔡易餘 |
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黃國昌 |
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李柏毅 |
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陳冠廷 |
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邱志偉 |
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王鴻薇 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢 |
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謝謝主席、謝謝張委員請拱志偉我們再請拱志偉張委員早安拱志偉早安是那今天我們要來講小朋友的安全是是是小朋友在這個中興新村啊你們的這個遊樂園裡面撞破了頭、頭破血流、瘋了五針 |
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到底這個案子已經一個多月了嘛一月十四到現在要兩個月啊你們有沒有負責?賠償了嗎?有啦我常常問他說到現在還沒公共意外責任選到現在還沒賠喔? |
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跟委員報告一下吧因為他2月20幾號才把相關的醫療不是一月十四一月十四發生一月十五就去關心嗎?對,我們都有跟家長溝通那家姓家長我們每個禮拜去了解他的狀況然後他在2月底才把相關的單據送給我們那我們現在已經我已經批了盡快好不好盡快,這個速度要加快我們每天都會追喔 |
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接下來我們看一下除了小朋友這個賠償的問題這個要加快之外安全問題更重要要給家長跟小朋友一個安心安全的這個遊樂的地方這個地方不能再出狀況那昨天昨天我還請專家特別到現場又去勘查了一次你們說一個月內一個月內本來要完成這個檢驗嘛對不對那為什麼昨天去看來來來主委你先看這個這個這個秋千當秋千 |
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因為這邊的 |
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⋯⋯⋯⋯ |
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對,已經是有問題了啊,對不對?那發生問題,對不對?然後你們說一個月要把它檢查完以後要做好,對不對?結果我昨天還吵著吵著,我今天要質詢嘛,所以我早上叫人去實地去勘察至少發現兩個地方還有問題,第一我早上說的秋千,啊早上也是有孩子在那裡玩啊,尤其拜到禮拜人都很多喔,這個地方是小朋友常去的地方,你看右邊這個,欸,上一張 |
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為什麼不安全?這個是很清楚,你鞦韆一定是要轉的嘛,對不對?你坐那個坐墊是要軟的,對不對?而且按照規定一定是要有弧度的。我們現場很多爸爸媽媽坐阿公阿嬤的,你帶小朋友去公園玩,你會讓他坐右邊這個嗎? |
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因為我們現在決定重新把它整理但是這個重新整理、整修或是重新規劃因為它這個是屬於全區的文化景觀我們要送縣政府的文資委員會他們同意以後我們才可以動 |
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那我們會儘快 要快一點啦 你不要再發生事情了 好不好 所以不要再發生 讓家長跟小朋友有一個安全的遊樂一個地方 絕對不要再出狀況了 看第二個圖來 這個也是現在沒有封起來的 這個在搖搖馬 大家可以看到 這個圖你看這個搖搖馬 左邊他是這樣搖嘛 對不對 你看 他下面這個彈簧 像彈簧這個地方 有沒有危險 |
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有危險嗎? |
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主委你看有危險嗎?所以我們會盡快的齁 這上次你看你也做了一個防護啊 對不對先先先把它封起來啦 OK 先把它去做 好不好那另外給我一個東西 你說你有找合法的廠商去做了檢測嘛 對不對找哪一家 找哪一家 他檢測報告是什麼 你等一下送來我辦公室好不好 OK 好來 那我們看下一個 |
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好啦 這個今天就不問你了 反正你花了很多心思 我知道你要讓中華新村要重現光芒嘛我剛剛今天看你的這個報告裡面有很多 一定要做到 注意我找時間借你來中興新村走一下今天很多人可能都從中興新村來的啦 那邊以前是我們的政治中心 包括我們的主席 以前這個新居民都在啊 有我們很美好的回憶啦 |
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所以一方面讓他光滑在線好不好讓南投人、讓中興新村的人光滑在線有那個驕傲感那第二個小朋友玩的地方馬上要改好不好好來第二個我們看一下這個也很重要我看你今天報告的第4頁你的第4頁啊你說電價要調控要有三顏者對不對注意我電給你聽啦你不用找了啦你說照顧民心對不對穩定物價節約能源 |
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現在電梯要開了,你怎麼照顧民生?怎麼穩定物價?這是原則,但是實際的做法可能要經濟部跟省議委員會他們做最後的決定。經濟部打臉你嗎?經濟部打臉國發會嗎?不會啦,他們還是會用這個三原則來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來來 |
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民生用電1000度以上要調10% 300度以下的要調5%你怎麼照顧民生怎麼穩定物價你是很有名的經濟學者欸 主委 主委 現在調下去 調下去 物價會上漲嗎主委 你是很有名的經濟學者喔 你又下次國發會主委 這樣調會不會物價會不會再上漲 |
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我同意啦就是說電價上漲當然會對物價會有影響這也是因為也因為這樣子所以過去一兩年我們為什麼一定要平衡對阿以前不要說一兩年前面20年漲都是300度以下民生都沒有漲阿為什麼這要漲第一雙基料是不是第一現在那個物價飆漲那麼高 |
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主計總署不是剛公布嗎?我們股尼就是因為物價上漲太高啊我們實質的總薪資倒退11年來最高啊這怎麼會是一個漲電價好的時間啊?特別是民生用電為什麼300度以下也可以漲呢? |
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你可不可以去跟他們說一下嗎?國發委主委、國民心能不能去跟經濟部長或者是行政院長我做一個建議我知道蔡總統常常爭取你的意見嘛你跟蔡總統講民生用電不能漲,可以嗎? |
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王委員因為明天那個朝委就有排那個一個專案報告是不是讓經濟部先說明以後你說我明天才問他 當天明天才問他問題是你是負責國家整體發展的人啊又是那麼有名的學者啊而且他打臉了你沒有看到嗎你這個照顧民生有穩定物價嗎我明天才拿這個東西問王美花她要現水配是不是 |
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這個還是要看他的方案沒有啦,你站在國家的發展啊站在穩定物價跟照顧民生啊我甚至這樣問好了啦你會不會是經濟部長董明新以後打臉你現在的國會主委董明新你到時候我拿這個你當經濟部長我拿這個去問你你如果守不住民生用電不要漲你是不是打臉自己去啦去啦總統講一下啦好不好 |
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主席 |